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Real prices for DVD's
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRandall_Lind
Registered: May 10, 2007
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Who pays $30 for a DVD? This is the only thing that is wrong with DVD Profiler always as been. SRP price is freaking wack.

Most DVD's are $20 or under.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin
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It's not a fault of the program. That's what the "suggested" price is. That's set by bigwigs who have probably never heard of this program.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Randall:

Perhaps you don't comprehend the difference between SRP and the Price the you paid (which will likely vary from user to user). Virtually EVERYTHING has an SRP, sometimes called MSRP. That is how it has always been, I can remember a time where the SRP was the price you paid, then Fair Trade Laws stepped in. Manufacturers marketing used to be very important perhaps even more so than today, for example if you ever get to see an OLD Kodak Commercial from the 50's or 60's, you would discover that you might be able to buy a Kodak Brownie for LESS THAN $30, translation you got to the store and the price was $29.95.

   

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVega
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Even with what Skip said... I remember working at Blockbuster back 10+ year ago.  The MSRP on DVD's when they were first released was usually around $100-$150.  This is what rental companies (Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, etc.) had to pay for the movies.  Then 3 or so months later the DVDs would come out for retail purchase and be priced around $30.  Most places still sold them for $20 instead.  Nowadays there's no gap between when a DVD is retail and when it's for rental so the MSRP basically stays in the $30+ range.  Even though most places like Target and Best Buy will sell them for $15 during the first week of release.

The SRP has nothing to do with the actual cost of a DVD.

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Well, I should clarify that by saying the SRP does effect the final price of the DVD, but that said price is almost always nothing close to the SRP.  Usually $10-30 cheaper depending on the total SRP and whether it's a boxset and all that.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
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May be the SRP doesn't reflect what people actually pay (though some do pay the SRP actually!) - however it is the only possible sensible price entry that can be held in the central database as any other figure will vary from user to user... and which is exactly why the 'price paid' is in your personalised data already.

Oh, and SRP is very handy if you ever have to deal with the insurance man after "the worst" has happened...
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantTouti
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This seems like it would be covered if Ken decides to add the "Current selling price" field in the personalization that I requested earlier this week.  SRP is useless for insurance purpose in my opinion because the online db contains the SRP at the time of release, not the current one.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorajm
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  SRP is useless for insurance purpose in my opinion because the online db contains the SRP at the time of release, not the current one.


Exactly. So its likely to be MORE!!.

Having been burgled twice, showing insurance companies the full retail price is always good. Gives them a sense of achievement when they save lots of money replacing things.

Personally I don't think current selling price is any use what so ever. If you check 3 real shops and 3 etailers you'll get 6 prices. So what's the point.

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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SRP is useless for insurance purpose in my opinion because the online db contains the SRP at the time of release, not the current one.


but you want the original price in there for insurance purposes. Its the only price you could backup with documentation if required.

The current price is just your guess from looking at 1 site or shop. And its good for only a few days and is then out of date.

Or were you going to update the real price every week for all your dvds?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantTouti
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Quoting pauls42:
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SRP is useless for insurance purpose in my opinion because the online db contains the SRP at the time of release, not the current one.


but you want the original price in there for insurance purposes. Its the only price you could backup with documentation if required.

The current price is just your guess from looking at 1 site or shop. And its good for only a few days and is then out of date.

Or were you going to update the real price every week for all your dvds?


My request had nothing to do with keeping current selling price, I asked for it because I want to be able to enter the current sellling price beside the price I paid.  It's only for comparison purpose.  I was only saying that I believe it could also be used to address the issue described in this post.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdjskyler
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It's only for comparison purpose.


Yes, the SRP is just another piece of data that is useful to the enjoyment of my collection.  The current selling price as well as the lowest reported retail price would be additional information I would appreciate also. 
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May be the SRP doesn't reflect what people actually pay (though some do pay the SRP actually!) - however it is the only possible sensible price entry that can be held in the central database as any other figure will vary from user to user... and which is exactly why the 'price paid' is in your personalised data already.

Oh, and SRP is very handy if you ever have to deal with the insurance man after "the worst" has happened...



You bet.  I use Profiler reports to generate my insurance list, and it is based on SRP.  That list is on file and updated periodically with the insurance guy.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSrehtims
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Also, if you know your retailers, you know about how much pre-release and new DVDs are going to cost.
You can also by knowing the distributor, which retailer will probably have the best price.
After a DVD has been out for a while you know which retailer will probably be the cheapest.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLithurge
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My request had nothing to do with keeping current selling price, I asked for it because I want to be able to enter the current sellling price beside the price I paid.  It's only for comparison purpose.  I was only saying that I believe it could also be used to address the issue described in this post.


But how do you define the current selling price? Below is a price comparison for a single title that I picked up for £6 in Virgin's 5 for £30 sale.

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantTouti
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But how do you define the current selling price?



Current selling price when and where I bought the DVD.  I buy most of my DVD's on sales, I want to be able to enter the price I paid and the regular price.  Last week I bought "Wonderfalls" for 18.99$ at Future Shop, their regular price was 46.99$, the SRP in DVDP is 59.99$.  What I want is to be able to enter the 46.99$ in the personalization window so later on, in reports and all I can compare the price I paid with what was the retail price when I bought it.  Comparing with the SRP at the time of release doesn't tell me how much I saved because this was not the retail price when I bought it.
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Quoting Touti:

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Current selling price when and where I bought the DVD.  I buy most of my DVD's on sales, I want to be able to enter the price I paid and the regular price.  Last week I bought "Wonderfalls" for 18.99$ at Future Shop, their regular price was 46.99$, the SRP in DVDP is 59.99$. 


That very rarely (if ever) happens in the UK, the price you pay is the price stuck on the front of the box and they rarely list a 'shop RP' for it. In fact I can't recall the last time I even saw the manufacturers RRP advertised anywhere but online shops.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Touti:

The example you are describing does not represent ANY kind of change is SRP, which because announcements are not made regarding the=se typically is difficult to ascretain. You are talking about a simple markdown from the store's normal price, or what they want you to think is their normal price. A markdown that size has typically been accomodated by the ditributor, as it would be WAAAAAY below the wholesale cost of the  the title which should be in the range of $25-35 based on the SRP. The only way to accomodate all the potential ways price could be used by users is through the notes field.

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