A user is trying to update a profile for 'Grease' in this manner:



While I like the use of dividers this way (and often use them myself), I don't think this particular update is allowed by the rules, so I've voted against it. Why? Because the rules say: "For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited." The decisive factor in this for me is that that these two dividers ONLY appear in the animated opening credits, but NOT in the complete cast list in the end credits.

Am I correct in voting 'no'? The contributor argues that dividers are not specifically mentioned in that part of the rules, and that as such, the rule doesn't apply with regards to dividers. To me, it seems that the phrase "take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits" covers it all, including dividers. Had these dividers been in the end credits, then I would have welcomed this contribution. As it is, I don't think they can/should be entered. So, am I right or wrong on this?

Edit: I meant "appear in the end credits" (poll option), obviously... 

I say "yes", because while the actor's individual names and roles information should only be taken from the end credits according to the mentioned rule, it does not disallow us from using group names by using dividers from the opening credits.

Opening Credits are irrelevant. If the dividers are from the end credits then I would have no problem but IF the user is trying to blend Opening and End Credits to produce this result hen he is WRONG and I would have to vote NO.

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In that case I think we need a new rule, because I really do not like additional information in the opening credits go to waste because of that.

In TV series' episodes, the opening credits often show the regular cast, and the end credits the extras. I suppose that doesn't mean we can not enter the regular cast? (Which I would like to put before the dividers, and the extras per episode after them, but that is just laziness )

I am not sure of examples, but I can imagine this happening for 'regular' movies too, where the stars and the director are in the opening credits, and the end credits show the remainder, often in diverse blocks.

Quoting skipnet50:

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Try reading the Rules.         Good grief. Your example is provided for.

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I'll put them under my pillow even...

Quoting northbloke:

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We can't assume that everyone will also like this use of the dividers, so we have to keep it local.

Correct. You can't assume anything (especially not in these forums) I don't like them as they are at the moment. The only thing I use them for is different cast lists, not different groups within one list (and that is what I thought was what they should be used for). Hopefully Ken will come with a new type of dividers for group roles soon

Quoting TigiHof:

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Just as a reminder: This thread started as a discussion about using dividers from the opening credits, not about using dividers for cast lists in general.

My opinion: I like the dividers and have used them myself, but only to separate data from the end credits. Using them for the opening credits is totally out of the question.

That's why I made sure I said "this use of dividers", apologies if I didn't make it clear enough.