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Exact runtime
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
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I would like the runtime to be exact.

Currently I put the exact runtime in the Notes section. That way I don't have to dig the disc out every time someone tries to change the runtime to what the cover states.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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I was tempted to post this one myself a couple of weeks ago. I know in the short term this one probably wont be popular, having to resubmit practically every entry in the database. However I would like to see it implemented so we can more accurately profile our collections.
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I am always for more accurate information... even if it does come with basically every profile having to be updated.
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Do we really care a movie is 1:46:31.  I mean have you ever sat back and said, "Damn I can't watch this DVD it is 31 seconds longer than I have time for."  I know is for information and archiving purposes, I still don't see a need.  If we are going to add the seconds where will  it stop?  Do we include the milliseconds or the nanoseconds?  Lets just do it down to Planck's time which is 5.4 x 10^-44 seconds. or 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000054 seconds.  Yes I know this is an extreme, it is supposed to be.  I think down to the minute is plenty anymore and we are just adding unnecessary work for ourselves.
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Pretty much any DVD player (software, standalone, etc...) allows you to see the total runtime in hours, minutes & seconds so we should be able to enter that information. I'm also fairly confident that they will run to exact seconds so there's no need to go further. It's not just about adding in seconds where we currently round down, it's also about taking them off when we round up. If a film is 1:52:31 we enter it as 1:53 even though it's quite some way away from that time.
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Quoting Lord Of The Sith:
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If we are going to add the seconds where will  it stop?

Movies usually have 24 frames per seconds, so we should be contend with x/24th of a second.

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I would also like to s Ken come up with a way to deal with the multiple runtimes which we see with some of the multi-version films.

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Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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If a film is 1:52:31 we enter it as 1:53 even though it's quite some way away from that time.


I don't believe I have ever heard 29 seconds refered to as being 'quite some away from' a specific time. 

As to the original request...rounding to the nearest minute is more than adequate.
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I don't believe I have ever heard 29 seconds refered to as being 'quite some away from' a specific time. 

As to the original request...rounding to the nearest minute is more than adequate.

I agree with both statements, Unicus.  Since the field in Profiler is in minutes, we have only two choices:  (1) round to the nearest minute or (2) truncate all "remaining" seconds.  Rounding is clearly the more accurate of those two choices.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
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Clearly not a popular request.

Oh well...I simply thought it would help to prevent ping-ponging profiles where people take the information off the box. I also thought that accuracy was the ultimate goal here.

Guess I was wrong.
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There shouldn't be any ping-ponging, based on the cover, as the rules clearly tell us to "always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible."

As for accuracy, we are talking about...at most...21 seconds here.  I have a hard time believing that the average user cares about being that accurate.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
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Quoting Unicus69:
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I have a hard time believing that the average user cares about being that accurate.


Have you asked them?

Are you sure?

Or it that just your opinion on the subject?

How about looking at this sort of suggestion from the viewpoint of those that DO or MIGHT want the feature?

As for the ping-ponging - I see it a LOT. Not everyone reads the rules as carefully as forum members. A lot of contributions I see are taking information from the box.

Anyway - it's no biggie. I simply thought it might be something people would want and it's not a feature request I have seen come up.
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Quoting Lord Of The Sith:
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If we are going to add the seconds where will  it stop?

Even if you wanted to, you won't find a DVD player* on the planet that breaks down the time to a fraction of a second.

* player, not an editor
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To be able to calculate the original time for a PAL spedup movie it would be required to have the exact runtime, so count me in for accuraccy.

In addition a feature could be added which calculated the original time (by subtracting 4%) and showing this between brackets behind the DVD runtime.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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Quoting Unicus69:
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I don't believe I have ever heard 29 seconds refered to as being 'quite some away from' a specific time. 



In the space of 60 seconds it's quite some way. In the grand scheme of things, no it's not.

Quoting skipnet50:
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I would also like to s Ken come up with a way to deal with the multiple runtimes which we see with some of the multi-version films.

Skip


I hadn't thought about that one and support this change as well.
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Quoting skipnet50:
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I would also like to s Ken come up with a way to deal with the multiple runtimes which we see with some of the multi-version films.

Skip


Not to mention TV Series where you can have a good 4 to 8 episodes on a single disc! 
Pete
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