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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranticefyre
Registered: August 16, 2007
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Hi all

I'm not sure how feasible this is... but it would be awesome to have a popularity rating. Ie. how many users have that DVD in their collection.

What do you all think? Silly idea?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
Registered: July 31, 2008
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This has been asked for many times.

Although I quite like the idea, the privacy aspect does play a large part here. In addition, Ken has stated before that Invelos does not know which DVDs people own so it would not be possible.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranticefyre
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Oops, sorry to re-post then.

Okay, fair enough. If that is the case... why not only read the public online profiles for the statistics? If people make them public, surely that wouldn't be an invasion of privacy?
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That was actually pretty much what I said on one of the previous threads. I can't remember the answer but the end of it was still that it was highly unlikely to happen at this time.

Fingers crossed for the future!
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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In addition, Ken has stated before that Invelos does not know which DVDs people own so it would not be possible.


this of course is rubbish, every time we upload our list ofn profiles to the online database, Invelos gets a list of profles listed by EAN (and which have a dvd title). It would be straightfiorward to see which profiles are listed most in the online database.

And of course, Invelos even keeps a record of which profiles we each own since it uses this information when allowing us to see contributions which have been made only on dvds we own.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranticefyre
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It wouldn't be an invasion of privacy, if they put an "opt-in" in the options :D
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
Registered: March 15, 2007
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Yeah, I see no problem with displaying anonymous statistics about people's online collections as long as they can opt out if they wish.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVittra
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I also would love to see this implemented. I often times am curious just how many people own a particular DVD. Especially the obscure titles.

This also is nice to know when contributing IMO. Sometimes it's just nice to know how many people you're actually helping out other than your own local database.

As for the privacy issue, I can understand how many people don't want said information available to others, but if it were anonymous, then there would be absolutely no way to pin point who actually owns them. And if it was an "opt-in" feature, that'd make it even more acceptable to those users I would imagine.

Just my 2 cents~ 
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Registered: April 17, 2007
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One way to get an indication of how many users have a title is to do an update on the profile. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranticefyre
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Vittra... you are speaking my mind my friend

That's exactly what I feel when i'm making the effort of contributing, and of course... it'd be pretty cool to know how many people actually bought that dvd.
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Of course it may have the opposite effect and you start thinking: why aren't all those other lazy sods doing any updating on this profile?   
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranticefyre
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ROFL, no not at all. I understand that not everyone has scanners or the time to do many dvds and quite frankly... this wonderful community relies on a team effort... not the effort of only a few people. I will always continue to contribute wherever I can and have time no matter how many people own a dvd 
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I'm actually more likely to do contributions for a DVD with fewer users than for one with lots. If lots of people own a DVD, there are lots of people who can update it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranticefyre
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You do raise a good point there, but I think that if we all value our collections the way that we do (we wouldn't have purchased DVD profiler unless we did), then the best attitude to take is that if a DVD in your collection is not updated and it bothers you (let's be honest, it always bothers me so i'm sure it bothers you), then take the proactive approach and update it. If everyone did that, we would get a lot more updates.

One thing that really bugs the heck out of me is low res, blocky, blurry cover scans. And I am actively working on getting HQ scans of the 800+ dvds I have in my collection as it's driving me nuts.

Pedantic? Absolutely
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorpdf256
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting pauls42:
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In addition, Ken has stated before that Invelos does not know which DVDs people own so it would not be possible.


this of course is rubbish, every time we upload our list ofn profiles to the online database, Invelos gets a list of profles listed by EAN (and which have a dvd title). It would be straightfiorward to see which profiles are listed most in the online database.

And of course, Invelos even keeps a record of which profiles we each own since it uses this information when allowing us to see contributions which have been made only on dvds we own.

This would only contain data from users that upload their collection to Invelos. This is likely a small subset of the total users. It may also be that Ken does not want anyone to know how big (or small) his user base is.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranticefyre
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Well, instead of focusing on the hurdles, why not look at possible solutions?

Just thinking out loud... but why not just simply use a percent to calculate in the back end (Invelos staff access only for the numbers, but output the percent for the profile)?

Say for example you look up The Matrix and it says popularity 30%... exactly how will you know the size of the user base? You won't... but it will give us an idea of how popular that DVD is.

Unless it says something silly like X/Y users... but a percentage is basically anonymous. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think we really need to know exact numbers, a percentile would do fine.

Or you could even enhance it to be something tiered that is based on the percentage, but produces a different result depending on that percent

For example: (I'm picking figures out of the air, but it will serve for example purposes)
<5% = Rare
6-20% = Uncommon
21-40% = Common
41-60% = Popular
61-80% = Highly Popular
80%+ = DVD Essential

Or, use stars for popularity

<20% *
20%+ **
40%+ ***
60%+ ****
80%+ *****
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