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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 8:38 AM | | | | Is Rest in Peace Department part of the title? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,755 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 10:44 AM | | | | To me, the title is just 'R.I.P.D.' |
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Registered: November 24, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,310 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 11:34 AM | | | | Yeah, it's just R.I.P.D. The words underneath just explain what it stands for. |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 11:40 AM | | | | While I do agree with the R.I.P.D. approach, I can see how problems may arise soon enough. In how far is R.I.P.D. different to MIB? Following the MIB clarification by Invelos, the title would in fact be "Rest in Peace Department". (Mind you, this is only playing "Devil's Advocate") | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 | | | Last edited: December 14, 2013 11:42 AM by Lewis_Prothero |
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Registered: November 24, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,310 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 11:50 AM | | | | A bit of rare common sense is needed here. A bit of research seems it's known as simply R.I.P.D. everywhere else, so why not here also? |
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Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 11:54 AM | | | | Quoting Ken: Quote: One-off rulings on individual titles are a waste of time - there is always a new twist available to cast a slightly different shade of gray, and users cannot be expected to scour the forums on a title-by-title basis. Similarly, refining and complicating the rules to satisfactorily contain each of these new variants is an exercise in futility.
Local databases can support an infinite variety of variants for title and other fields, and the local locks are available to make those changes permanent. With this in mind, hopefully the supporters on both sides of this and other similar debates can agree that the direction of a decision here is less important that the fact of a decision. Consistency for submission to the online is possible and what we should shoot for. Agreement on how it "should be" is neither possible nor (thankfully) necessary. MIB was a one-off ruling, and not necessarily applied across the DB. IMHO the title should be R.I.P.D. |
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Registered: December 27, 2009 | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 12:03 PM | | | | Back cover credit block on my copy is R.I.P.D.
fyi, common sense and consistency are not part of the DVDP process. |
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Registered: November 24, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,310 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 3:01 PM | | | | I never said they were. That's why I used the word 'rare'. |
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Registered: December 27, 2009 | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 3:35 PM | | | | Quoting GreyHulk: Quote: I never said they were. That's why I used the word 'rare'. bordering on extinct |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 6:20 PM | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote: Quoting Ken:
Quote: One-off rulings on individual titles are a waste of time - there is always a new twist available to cast a slightly different shade of gray, and users cannot be expected to scour the forums on a title-by-title basis. Similarly, refining and complicating the rules to satisfactorily contain each of these new variants is an exercise in futility.
Local databases can support an infinite variety of variants for title and other fields, and the local locks are available to make those changes permanent. With this in mind, hopefully the supporters on both sides of this and other similar debates can agree that the direction of a decision here is less important that the fact of a decision. Consistency for submission to the online is possible and what we should shoot for. Agreement on how it "should be" is neither possible nor (thankfully) necessary.
MIB was a one-off ruling, and not necessarily applied across the DB.
IMHO the title should be R.I.P.D. God forbid we should apply the same logic to two titles which structurally appear identical on the front cover! Any time a title in LARGE letters is followed by a subtitle in small letters directly beneath it, I treat it the SAME way. If we actually had consistency, maybe people wouldn't constantly be coming here to ask the same questions over and over! Fortunately, the program is designed to allow each of us to be as inconsistent as we wish! | | | Hal |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 10:23 PM | | | | And I thought I was the cynic bastard around here ... | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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Registered: December 27, 2009 | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: December 14, 2013 11:38 PM | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote: And I thought I was the cynic bastard around here ...
Over time I think we all have a streak of it in us. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: December 15, 2013 4:36 AM | | | | From the Rules:
"Use the title from the front cover"
It doesn't matter what the "real" title is, what the credit block says or any other reference you'd like to use. That's what the "Original Title" field is for.
What goes in the title field is the title of THIS release as displayed on the front cover. That's it! | | | Hal |
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Registered: December 27, 2009 | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: December 15, 2013 4:50 AM | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: From the Rules:
"Use the title from the front cover"
It doesn't matter what the "real" title is, what the credit block says or any other reference you'd like to use. That's what the "Original Title" field is for.
What goes in the title field is the title of THIS release as displayed on the front cover. That's it! R.I.P.D.: Rest in Peace Department or R.I.P.D. or Rest in Peace Department because of the decisions on similar titles in the past year all 3 are correct. | | | Last edited: December 15, 2013 4:50 AM by ateo357 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: December 15, 2013 4:55 AM | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote: R.I.P.D.: Rest in Peace Department or R.I.P.D. or Rest in Peace Department because of the decisions on similar titles in the past year all 3 are correct. Only one is correct. The others are personal preference. | | | Hal | | | Last edited: December 15, 2013 4:56 AM by hal9g |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: December 15, 2013 6:07 AM | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: Quoting ateo357:
Quote: R.I.P.D.: Rest in Peace Department or R.I.P.D. or Rest in Peace Department because of the decisions on similar titles in the past year all 3 are correct.
Only one is correct. The others are personal preference. Agreed!! Silly, but true. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
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