We must have different tastes in films and TV as I do probably a good 100+ contributions a month and I don't usually do common names or birth years. Though I do see a lot of those contributions I also see a lot of other things getting done as well.

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It is very rare in that a title I get isn't already in the database.

I wish I could say that.  It's not uncommon for me to have to create profiles from scratch these days.

Well someone always has to. You just happen to be one of the lucky ones




My view on this is simple and unwavering: every database has to be created by someone. This is ours (both registered and non-registered users.) People make mistakes. We are no different. Mining may be easier, but it's also stealing the work of someone else, and the odds are great that the database being mined also contains mistakes. Building an importing feature into the program doesn't just encourage data mining (whether you think this is right or wrong doesn't matter,) it will decease the effort (if only for some) of double-checking to see if any of the data is correct. Type in a movie and UPC, click three buttons, and so what if it wasn't right? If you care about this database and using its data, put thought and work into trying to get things right, otherwise why use data from it at all?

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It is very rare in that a title I get isn't already in the database. Many times the profiles need work... but they are almost always there. And when they are not I am quick to put at least a partial profile up for them.

While that may be true for mainstream movies in the US locality, it is much less true for non-mainstream movies in smaller localities. And I share the observation that others have made that the coverage of new releases by the DVDP database is decreasing.

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It is very rare in that a title I get isn't already in the database. Many times the profiles need work... but they are almost always there. And when they are not I am quick to put at least a partial profile up for them.

While that may be true for mainstream movies in the US locality, it is much less true for non-mainstream movies in smaller localities. And I share the observation that others have made that the coverage of new releases by the DVDP database is decreasing.

And since it is a user database that means the users that contributed those DVD's that were there when you needed to download a profile, are not contributing like they used to. Maybe it's time for someone else to cowboy up and do some contributing.

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If you care about this database and using its data, put thought and work into trying to get things right, otherwise why use data from it at all?

I care about this program, I also have been caring in the past about the database and contributed more than 500 profiles that didn't exist at all, and I think I'm not lazy (I spend hundreds of hours to share headshots and screen caps for images galleries).

My problem with contribution is rules that ask to enter incorrect data. I have seen perfect profiles that had been entered before 2009, totally destroyed by contributors wanting to follow rules, reintroducing errors that can be found in overviews or credits. The "carbon copy" philosophy for rules is the main reason that prevents some users to contribute. They build a correct profiles for themselves, but cannot contribute because their correct (= as in real world) data is not what rules want.

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...but until they change, they are what they are, and outside of fighting to change the rules, until then they still should be followed regardless of personal opinions.

I agree, and the only way to follow rules without entering bad data is not to contribute...

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But why should I care about your database, I say yours, becaus for me, this one is incomplete. I do respect your idea and meaning of how your database should look like, but that is not my view.

MY view of what the database should look like is what the rules tell us to do. As Pete said, this is YOUR database too. If you use this program then the database is as much yours as mine, or anyone else. When you don't contribute to improve the database it is yourself who suffers.

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For I joined and bought DVD Profiler, so I don't need to type all the data by myself and still could have access to all the movie information that there are

Then you obviously didn't understand that Profiler uses a user-built database. Maybe the concept was foreign to you? I don't know. It's pretty clear that to buy a program because you 'don't need to type all the data by myself' is a bit silly. What did you think? That you'd never have to contribute? EVERYONE finds some data missing or profiles absent. I find lots of profiles I have to complete from scratch. What I don't do is sit back and complain that someone ELSE hasn't done the work for me. I create that profile and I submit it.

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And I don't care that much about that DVD part, those missing items, that I need, I can fill in myself.

AND CONTRIBUTE!!!!!!?????

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As the ad was and is saying an still growing database, and I'm sorry to say, but indeed, it is growing but it is growing slower and slower and lesser and lesser. And I think I'm entitled to address this isseu, even if I don't contribute.

Yes you are. But, we the contributors, are here to tell that the reason the database is growing slower and slower as the years go by is because of lazy people like you who don't contribute and think they're entitled to have a fully completed collection.   

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But, we the contributors, are here to tell that the reason the database is growing slower and slower as the years go by is because of lazy people like you who don't contribute and think they're entitled to have a fully completed collection.

I'm fed up to read that people who do not contribute are lazy. The word lazy has been used approximatively 27 times in this thread and it becomes really boring  .

We have users that are very proud of themselves since, after a "full audit", they change the correct "Mélanie Thierry" to the incorrect "Melanie Thierry", just because credits were capitalized, breaking the links for hundred of other users who own that title. I refuse to do that, and do not consider people who stopped contribution not to follow insane rules as lazy. 

You contribute. You have said so many times. Therefore you are NOT lazy.

I realise your frustration with the linking issues. I don't see this as a problem; but I know you do.

I don't care if you think I'm being harsh; but I'm sorry, if someone contributes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the Profiler online database; but expects the database to be perfect, then they deserve to be called LAZY.

I will shout it from the rooftops. THEY ARE LAZY. Anyone who does nothing and expects everything done for them is LAZY.

You may not like my opinion and you are fully entitled to your own.

I'm fed up with LAZY people taking, taking, taking and then complaining all the time. I fed up with people moaning about things in this database but taking no constructive steps to improve it. I'm fed up with the same old rubbish being said over and over again.   

You seem very focused on cast and crew. No one is talking about C&C exclusively. I'm certainly not.
If someone takes the time to contribute ANYTHING to the online databse - thereby improving it for other users; then I salute them! 
They are NOT lazy!