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Not allowing/pulling from imdb is killing submissions in the database
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantmovie_madness
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Addressing the OP's other points:

I agree that new releases are often missing and don't become available until weeks or months later, or longer.  In that case, I have to create a profile myself.  This doesn't happen often enough to annoy me.  In the past year, I had to create 20 custom profiles for the missing discs, but those were out of hundreds of discs I bought.  In other words, I found a vast majority of discs that already had existing profiles.  A bigger problem for me is missing back covers.  Last year, I had to scan the back covers of about 40 discs myself because their submitted profiles didn't have the back covers.

Regarding not having enough time to create custom profiles, you just have to make time.  This is a hobby, which is supposed to suck up time.  Collecting movies, reading or watching reviews, looking for deals, buying shelves, organizing your shelves, etc., all suck up time.  That's what a hobby does.  I agree that manually entering cast and crew is tedious.  But to look for better solutions, you have to spend time and effort too.
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yea, but you are failing to realize: i bet people (MYSELF INCLUDED) would rather have info in the profile than NO INFO WHATSOEVER.  i, too, have been using it since it was Invocative.  i've submitted several profiles back in the day and they were rejected.  so i said to myself, fine - i won't help out.  now, for the last 18+ years, if it's not in the database, i have to go through the pain of putting in BASIC info and cover image myself.  (no cast info, which REALLY sucks...)

i'd just be nice to have the info there, THEN if someone sees a mistake, and wants to fix it - GO FOR IT!

pulling from IMDB or even TMDB would be better than NOTHING.


It's a user contributed database and we all go through that with the database. If you're not contributing then it means someone else would have to. It doesn't help if more people choose not to contribute and just take from the system.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdobrzpe
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@Lowpro and @mreeder50

i just wanted to THANK YOU for suggesting CastCrewEdit2!  i've spent the last few weeks *straight* filling in the missing info in my database.  ugh, WHAT a task, but, worth it for me.  (i've got +7000 profiles...)

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It's a user contributed database and we all go through that with the database. If you're not contributing then it means someone else would have to. It doesn't help if more people choose not to contribute and just take from the system.


yea.  you are correct.  and it SUCKS, doesn't it??  i can't remember how many i profiles i've submitted, but i can tell you that ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of them were rejected.  after a while, being told "NO" over and over, i stopped trying.  and now NO ONE gets ANY benefit of the effort i've put in for the better part of two decades!  and that SUCKS.
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yea.  you are correct.  and it SUCKS, doesn't it??  i can't remember how many i profiles i've submitted, but i can tell you that ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of them were rejected.  after a while, being told "NO" over and over, i stopped trying.  and now NO ONE gets ANY benefit of the effort i've put in for the better part of two decades!  and that SUCKS.


And why was that? I'm assuming you're specifically referring to cast and crew data. I've submitted lots of updates over the past two decades and have rarely had issues.
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yea.  you are correct.  and it SUCKS, doesn't it??  i can't remember how many i profiles i've submitted, but i can tell you that ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of them were rejected.  after a while, being told "NO" over and over, i stopped trying.  and now NO ONE gets ANY benefit of the effort i've put in for the better part of two decades!  and that SUCKS.


And why was that? I'm assuming you're specifically referring to cast and crew data. I've submitted lots of updates over the past two decades and have rarely had issues.

Yeah, this seems odd.  I've not contributed a lot...less than 1,000 profiles...but I don't think I've ever had a single one declined.  For someone to have all of their declined seems to indicate a pattern of not following the rules. 
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honestly, it was when i first got the program back in 2006 - and it wasn't obvious to me why they were declined, but there was NO cast or crew info.  i was NOT about to type all that info in manually!  LOL!  i'm SURE there were 'rules' i hadn't followed, otherwise why would they all be rejected, right?  i just remember not knowing back then what i had done improperly.  it was basically disc ID, name, year, runtime, cover, and synopsis.  (if i recall correctly...)  you know, just enough basic info to get the title in the database.  but, like i said, it wasn't obvious why they were getting rejected, and it was pretty few and far between to even HAVE to contribute back then!  it's fine, i guess.  it just sucks to put in all this work for myself and NOT be able to contribute.

and what makes it even MORE stupid: NOW I CAN'T!  (because i've filled in missing info with CastCrewEdit2...)

right?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
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honestly, it was when i first got the program back in 2006 - and it wasn't obvious to me why they were declined, but there was NO cast or crew info.  i was NOT about to type all that info in manually!  LOL!  i'm SURE there were 'rules' i hadn't followed, otherwise why would they all be rejected, right?  i just remember not knowing back then what i had done improperly.  it was basically disc ID, name, year, runtime, cover, and synopsis.  (if i recall correctly...)  you know, just enough basic info to get the title in the database.  but, like i said, it wasn't obvious why they were getting rejected, and it was pretty few and far between to even HAVE to contribute back then!  it's fine, i guess.  it just sucks to put in all this work for myself and NOT be able to contribute.

and what makes it even MORE stupid: NOW I CAN'T!  (because i've filled in missing info with CastCrewEdit2...)

right?


What's the primary country of the profiles you were contributing? There should have been some kind of reason in the No votes to help you ascertain what the issues were.

However, you could still contribute today, just don't check off the cast and crew when submitting a profile.
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