Quoting pompel9:

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I never vote on things in my wishlist. You can't verify it, so this abillity should be removed.

as others have already said there is lots of information you can verify. So yes - I vote on things I can see are correct/wrong by the rules. And covers - you can tell if a new one is better than the previous one..

Quoting sknyfs:

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There are movies where I know who the main stars are, and I know the title, but for whatever reason I didn't buy it. Some things like supporting actors, music/sound and behind the scenes people you can't vote on without owning the dvd.

so does this mean that when you come to a profile update which includes supporting actors you get out the DVd and play the film in order to write down the cast list so you can check the submission?

Or do you go by other things - you know by what was included in the contribution notes?

Because otherwise whats the difference between checking a wishlist item and a owned item?

Two things about this subject trouble me.

(1) The assumption that just becuse I don't own a particular title I cannot accurately assess a contribution and thus should be denied the right to vote.

(2) Because I have a large number of titles in my Wishlist I must be trying to sabotage the integrity of the main database.

Frankly, I resent both of these statements.  Along with other users, I have explained that there are many things about a contribution that can be verified without physical possession of the DVD.

And the size of my wishlist is nobody's business but my own.

So?? What's the point of restricting the voting at all?? I'm sure some people would like that, then they could use their wishlist for what it was meant for. 

Quoting TigiHof:

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I can give you a simple example where it absolutely makes sense to vote for a title in your wish list. As you know, we have a project for cleaning up the database in the German profiler forum: Someone spots a profile with a fake UPC or a bootleg and sends in an update with "Screener: Delete this profile" etc. to mark it for deletion. He tells other users about this update who vote "Yes" to indicate that it is indeed an incorrect profile.

It is obviously impossible to "own" a DVD with a fake UPC in the profile, yet it makes sense to vote for an update of this profile.

Sorry, your example is not valid since you use the system for something that it has not been designed for. I am not saying that this is wrong, but it should be used in this discussion.

From the first post in this thread:

Quoting richierich:

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...there must be users voting without verifying anything at all?

Just because someone owns a DVD is no guarantee that he'll verify what he's voting on.

Quoting rifter:

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It isn't which list someone uses that's that problem.  If they are going to abuse their voting they will do it regardless of the list in use.  It's an issue of trust.  The default being that we trust people to be honest in what they do.

Simply put, this is why I am offended - the presumption that my honesty can't be trusted because I vote on a disc I don't already own.

While I understand why people believe you should own what you're allowed to vote on, I don't agree that the lack of the physical disc invalidates a vote.  People can be careless even if the own a title - or can vote based on something other than the disc even if they own the title.

The main reason I oppose a ban on voting on wishlist titles is that it would be impossible to verify that a voter actually owned the title.  Since there's no way to enforce such a rule, (unless you make the voter have the DVD in his drive when he votes so the Disc ID can be validated), it is pointless to enact the rule.