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Managing Movies stored on hard drive (ID media type)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpaceFreakMicha
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This feature has been demanded since years, and (thank god) was never included by Ken. 
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This feature, or variations of same, has been requested
here,
here,
here,
here
and countless times on the Intervocative forums. I'm doubtful it will ever be implemented.
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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If you really want to track this, why not just set up a tag called "Hard Drive" or the like.

Then, you can add a link in your notes page to point to the file, or create an html window.

(I don't do this personally for entire movies, but I do it for trailers.)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registranttmb4016
Registered: March 14, 2007
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I don't want to get involved in whether the feature is valid/ been requested before but I suspect Steinyd is not alone in this. I want a similar feature as the kids DVD's are as expected at great risk I have copied them to HD and they can now enjoy them via the pc with no risk to the original. For this full quality/ extras is not required and so disk space is not an issue.

Steinyd -
I found this  http://www.mymovies.name to be a useful product although it is 'marketed' as a media centre add-on it has a standalone GUI and can differentiate between online / offline media and also the location of specific rips. Recently a new online contirbution database was added which whilst does not havew the volume of contributions yet may prove to be useful. In addition it can import the DVD Profiler DB. Without knowing all your details difficult to know whether it meets your requirement s but might be worth checking out. I currently maintain both systems but if and when a decision needs to be made the ability to track online media will be included. Despite the responses you have received so far - you are not a lone voice in this requirement and I see no reason why this request cannot be posted. - Invelos decides whether it has merit not the user base.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Nobody said he couldn't post it. We tried to provide him answers. And point out that this does have history in ProfilerLand. Now if it's not the answer he wanted to hear, sorry but that is just too bad. Nobody here has given him the attitude he has responded with.

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantsteinyd
Registered: September 19, 2007
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Skippy - you have an interesting way of analyzing what was said. You really are taking this far off track. Re-read your opening comments in this thread. Rather then pointing out a solution, you told me how inappropriate my use of hardware was for storing movies. You didn't offer any advice, just an opinion as to why my request was 'invalid'.  There are others, however that did point out some possibilities to achieve what I was wanting to do. Has nothing to do with what I 'wanted to hear'. If there is anything I want to hear, it is from the author as to what could be accomodated in a future release or, as others have pointed out that this request has been made before, why it can't/won't be accomodated. Then I will be happy with whatever that answer is.

Look, I appreciate your input but please stop! I'd rather have a reasonable discussion of how I can achieve what I'm looking to do rather than debating why I want to do it or why I shouldn't do it. I have a need and hoped this tool could assist. You on the other hand, appear to not like having friends (ala 'i'm not blockbuster') or interacting in any meaningful conversation so please invite yourself to leave this thread.  Go count your movies or something.

Thanks


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Nobody said he couldn't post it. We tried to provide him answers. And point out that this does have history in ProfilerLand. Now if it's not the answer he wanted to hear, sorry but that is just too bad. Nobody here has given him the attitude he has responded with.

Skip
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantsteinyd
Registered: September 19, 2007
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Thanks alot for the heads up and the tips .. I'll have a look.  I didn't think I was the only one that had a collection of videos (whether store bought, internet purchased or home made) that I wish to maintain in a common catalog and identify their location.  There is some hope yet! ;-)

Regards,
David


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I don't want to get involved in whether the feature is valid/ been requested before but I suspect Steinyd is not alone in this. I want a similar feature as the kids DVD's are as expected at great risk I have copied them to HD and they can now enjoy them via the pc with no risk to the original. For this full quality/ extras is not required and so disk space is not an issue.

Steinyd -
I found this  http://www.mymovies.name to be a useful product although it is 'marketed' as a media centre add-on it has a standalone GUI and can differentiate between online / offline media and also the location of specific rips. Recently a new online contirbution database was added which whilst does not havew the volume of contributions yet may prove to be useful. In addition it can import the DVD Profiler DB. Without knowing all your details difficult to know whether it meets your requirement s but might be worth checking out. I currently maintain both systems but if and when a decision needs to be made the ability to track online media will be included. Despite the responses you have received so far - you are not a lone voice in this requirement and I see no reason why this request cannot be posted. - Invelos decides whether it has merit not the user base.
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Quoting stevegblair:
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If you really want to track this, why not just set up a tag called "Hard Drive" or the like.

Then, you can add a link in your notes page to point to the file, or create an html window.

(I don't do this personally for entire movies, but I do it for trailers.)


Just in case you missed this amongst all the other posts - I think Steve's idea of tags is the best option with the program as it stands now.
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Thanks Northbloke, I did catch that. When I get home from the office tonight I'm going to 'RTFM' and see if that'll work for me.

Thanks again

David


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Quoting stevegblair:
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If you really want to track this, why not just set up a tag called "Hard Drive" or the like.

Then, you can add a link in your notes page to point to the file, or create an html window.

(I don't do this personally for entire movies, but I do it for trailers.)


Just in case you missed this amongst all the other posts - I think Steve's idea of tags is the best option with the program as it stands now.
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As I buy each movie I use a 'ripping' tool to store the 'main movie' only - avoiding all other 'garbage' and storing it to my network attached NAS device. The process takes about 15 minutes, doesn't require any interaction from me once I press start.

Again, as 'skippy' points out it isn't a practical solution for everyone especially for libraries of collections such as his. However, there are more and more such solutions coming to market and I'm having some decent results as an 'early adopter'. 

My requirement / request is actually quite simple and would prefer it to be on the 'add' forms along the media type field so that I can identify my movie storage on one of the media formats, including a hard drive. Quite simple actually.  For those early adopters such as myself, it would be very handy to be able to identify this.


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When i went to the army, i tryed to record some of my DVD's to the laptop, so that i wouldnt have to carry the actual discs with me (they could get scratched). It took few hours just to record the movie, and it took about 6GB space to store it.

After recording few, I bought a better disc wallet instead

Anyway i think recording all my DVD's to a media PC would be awesome, but cant see myself doing it anytime soon with the current hardware.



You keep dinging on Skip for what he said, but he's right.  Even in your collection is fairly small, at this point in time, the technology is not available to make it cost effective, nor is it safe enough to long term use.  We may get to that point someday, but I don't think it will be until drives are capable of handling data loads on the order of 100 terabytes or better. 

On top of that, there are legal issues to be resolved.  Technically, it is illegal to "deconstruct" a DVD as you describe doing.  Making a backup copy on another disc is one thing, but altering the content as you are doing (removing parts of it is no different than editing the movie from a legal standpoint) is problematic from a legal point of view.  Finally, Profiler is for tracking movies on DVD, not on a hard drive or any other media.

But you do whatever floats your boat; you will anyway, regardless of what anybody here says.
John

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
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As an alternative to Tagging, I was thinking you could use the 'Loaned To' function and create a user called Hard Drive.

You could 'return' it when you overwrite it and it *may* be possible (I haven't checked) to put a Loaned To output into a Report (unlike Tags at present)
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On top of that, there are legal issues to be resolved.  Technically, it is illegal to "deconstruct" a DVD as you describe doing.  Making a backup copy on another disc is one thing, but altering the content as you are doing (removing parts of it is no different than editing the movie from a legal standpoint) is problematic from a legal point of view.  Finally, Profiler is for tracking movies on DVD, not on a hard drive or any other media.


And wouldn't the addition of a feature as suggested by the poster be sort of an endorsement by Invelos of ripping DVDs to a hard drive, which technically is illegal, at least in the US?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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Yea, I found those as well but they aren't on the 'add' forms so many more clicks, etc.


After you add all of your movies stored on hard drive, flag all those entries, go to the Collection menu, select Flagged , then Edit Tags. That way you can set a "Hard Drive" tag for all of them with just one click.
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The legal issues would be different from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, so no need to offer advise on legallity in copying DVDs to the hard disk unless you know where people are located.

The hard disk space to store a movie on is less than €2 here in Holland (which is not known as the cheapest place on the planet). If this is considered cost efficient or not is obviously a personal choice. After all, I often see people buying things I do not consider cost efficient.

We already have the tags where users can define boolean values. Simply allowing users to define their own text fields the same way would allow people to track all sorts of extra information in a structured way - including if they choose the location of the file on the hard disk. Even in the US I doubt the possibility to create custom meta data would give legal problems.
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We already have the tags where users can define boolean values. Simply allowing users to define their own text fields the same way would allow people to track all sorts of extra information in a structured way...

Well, you can already do that with the Notes field in HTML mode and XML data islands inside it.
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So for those that drive cars that can achieve 165 mph but don't because it is illegal, and for those that own handguns legally but don't kill people because it is illegal, I wouldn't consider adding what I requested an endorsement of doing anything illegal. I suggested a user definable value just to be safe.

As to legalities of copying movies that I've purchased for my own use, I'll leave that conversation to the courts and the hundreds of other discussions across the internet that have discussed this topic endlessly. I think we all know what our regional laws are for this.  I have my own opinion but hadn't intended for this thread to address that what so ever. As I started this thread by asking to leave that portion of the conversation aside, it appears that has been brought in by those that want to be right on this topic.

For those that have offered me options as to how I can use existing functionality, I very much appreciate that. I will look into those options and attempt to make it work for my purpose.

For those that feel copying movies to a hard drive to be inefficient, not cost effective, bad use of time, etc., I suggest you not try this at home! For me, it is currently serving its purpose and I'm happy accepting the convenience over cost (a purposeful decision) and have fully accepted the risks (I have worked in technology for 30 years and appreciate what I've accepted).

For those that attempted to steer this thread in directions for their own purposes, enjoy. I'm done here.  I've enjoyed using DVD Profiler for many years and glad to see the author has picked it up again as well as having delivered a mobile version (extremely useful). I will continue to enjoy the software but will tread lightly if/when i come back to these forums seeking to request features.

Best Regards to all ..
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