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Criterion to offer blu-ray upgrade program
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Criterion's blu-rays will be region A btw.


yes, saw that on some other forums as well.


It is also in their FAQ... as is the fact that "all" DVD releases are Region 1

Really?
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Criterion's blu-rays will be region A btw.


yes, saw that on some other forums as well.


It is also in their FAQ... as is the fact that "all" DVD releases are Region 1

Really?


it doesn't matter - eventually I would have a blu ray PC drive - and then I could read any region blu ray disc - so this pointless action by CRiterion will do nothing but inconvenience people..
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Like Funky said, "all" their DVDs are also R1.

Criterion has to license the movie rights from the owning studio, and their contract strictly specifies that they are allowed to market it on north America alone.
Some studios also write it explicitly on the licensing contract that the resulting DVD must be geographically coded. In those situations Criterion has no other choice than to region code it. Whenever the licensing studio doesn't specifically includes the region coding of the resultant DVD on the contract, Criterion "forgets" to put the coding. It is a known practice by them and it will still be abiding by the contract as it will market it in north America alone (not their fault that so many stores will sell them to costumers abroad afterward).
Of course every major studio knows this course of action, and when they "forget" to specifically demand region coding they know that Criterion will in turn know that's the sign to "forget" it as well.
And, let's face it, Criterion's market share is a tiny one (Joe Sixpack doesn't make a faintest idea what a 'Criterion DVD' is), so, major studios could "forget" it most of the times.
However, due to those licensing constraints, and in order not to make any future licensings harder, Criterion keeps the official statement that All DVDs are Region 1 and all Blu-Rays are Region A.

But I'd almost bet that the Blu-Ray coding policy will be the same as the DVD one. Officially one thing, but on practice, whenever possible, a different one.

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The difference is of course that in practice it doesn't matter if their DVDs are region coded or not, since most players on the market are very easy to modify. Perhaps blu-ray will get to that point as well in the future, but right now it represents a major obstacle to most people.
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Agreed.
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I just got a new PC with a Blu-Ray drive.... I wonder why 
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I just got a new PC with a Blu-Ray drive.... I wonder why 


and AnyDVD HD ?
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I just got a new PC with a Blu-Ray drive.... I wonder why 


and AnyDVD HD ?

I have no idea to which DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray region coding removal program provided by Slysoft you are referring 
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The difference is of course that in practice it doesn't matter if their DVDs are region coded or not, since most players on the market are very easy to modify. Perhaps blu-ray will get to that point as well in the future, but right now it represents a major obstacle to most people.

I've got a region free Panasonic BD30 player. There are several other blu ray players modified for A+B.
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Those are hardware modifications, and not what I would qualify as "easy to modify". The problem will remain until there is an easy to implement software hack.
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Let me see if I got this right. I paid $29.99 for "The Lady Vanishes" DVD, hand over the DVD and pay an additional $25 plus $5 for shipping and my "The Lady Vanishes" now costs me $59.99? Plus I'm out the DVD? Where's the upside?

Since the Blu-ray pricing is going to be identical to the SD DVDs, you might be better off buying the Blu-ray for $29.99 and selling your DVD.


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