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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I love to loan.  But I can't find anyone who can follow my three simple rules.  1) Only take a reasonable amount at any one time.  2) Only keep them for a reasonable amount of time.  3) Bring them back in the same condition they were in when you got them.  Almost no one can follow 2 and/or 3, so they're not invited to borrow anything again.  I even had one guy at work who I was sure would be a great loaner.  Older guy, beautiful home kept in perfect condition, a car he takes to car shows and worships, his own 800 DVD collection, neat freak, etc.  So I lent him King Kong on HD DVD when he first got his player.  And he returned it the following Monday with scratches and gouges in the case.  I couldn't believe it.

So no one really borrows my movies anymore.  Except my wife's friends.  She'll loan out kids movies and that's the last we see of them.  At least she only loans out the crap movies our kids have grown out of.


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(...) if your friend(s) decide that they want to rip your disc, which is a violation of the law that Hollywood takes a very dim view of, at the point they create the copy the owner can be held just a liable legally as the person(s) doing the copying. (...)

While I do not know the US law that well, I can't believe this. Where I live this is definitely not the case. I may loan my discs to anybody I want and can't be held liable for what they do.

BTW. Copying a loaned disc for private purposes falls under fair use here.

Rho:

Since you have no expertise in this area and i DO...I have seen the cases and in some cases I have been witness, I have also been the subject of subpoena for my customer list as part of an investigation of my members because one of them was caught; and I was told by corporate to co-operate. Is it worth it...no to me. And you have a TWO step process here in the First you will have the copyright violation (criminal) for which the penalty can be $250,000 and/or 5 years in jail per incident. Then once you are through with that you will then face the copyright violation (civil) at which time the Studios will sue to recover damages. I don't pretend to know how the law operates in your part of the world, don't prtetend to know that of which you know nothing in this part of the world.

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But, it is the person copying the disk that is charged NOT the person that loaned and/or rented it to them. If a case was filed, it was not for making 'a copy', it was for making 'lots of copies' and then selling them!

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Not true, paul, not true at all. Likely the Feds would not prosecute criminally, but Hollywood is not required to ignore the owner and there are instances where they have not, I suspect it has to do with the attitude of the owner, but i am not privy to the details or those kind of discussion. but fream on if you like. I know of at least one case which did NOT involve copying and selling but the owner and the perp both bragged about it, and the wrong people heard them brag...and bang. The perp got nailed criminally and civilly and the owner got held liable civilly. There was, as i recall, something on the order of 1000 titles involved. The owner TRIED to claim his backup privilege under the Fair Use statute but that didn't work real well since he did not have possession of the "backup".



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Why it is necessary to spam a reasonable feature request with off-topic "legal" discussion?
On second thought, that was a dumb question.
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Why is it necessary for you to presume to sit in judgement and spam a topic, Mathias. On second thought an equally dumb question.

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Billy Video
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Why it is necessary to spam a reasonable feature request with off-topic "legal" discussion?
On second thought, that was a dumb question.


Who said it was necessary? 

Why are you acting as if this is the exception instead of the rule?  Anybody who is not 'new' knows that this is what happens in these forums.  Rather than commenting on it, which only serves to further push the conversation off-topic, why not just ignore it and add an on-topic comment?

It never ceases to amaze me how people, who complain about off-topic posts, never seem to realize that they are adding to the problem they are complaining about it. 
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I spent lots of money assembling it and i want to loan a valiable to some friend who may very well trash my property.  


Strange friends you're having where you have to fear that they will do harm to your DVDs.


My experience is similar to Mark's.  I loaned a DVD to my in-laws, thinking they would take care of it, and it came back with a damaged case.  I call it the 'Blockbuster' mentality.  People are so used to not having to take care of rentals, that they don't give a second thought to any DVD they borrow.

Needless to say, I do not loan out my DVDs anymore.  People just don't see them the same way I do so will not treat them the same way I do.
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On-topic: I agree with those who have commented on wishing to retain "Watched" statistics for sold or traded or rented DVDs. I have regretted not retaining profiles for discs that I've sold or given away. I've solved that problem by keeping them, even my duplicates. 

Off-topic: We have a loan feature in the program already. 

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Anybody who is not 'new' knows that this is what happens in these forums.  Rather than commenting on it, which only serves to further push the conversation off-topic, why not just ignore it and add an on-topic comment?

It never ceases to amaze me how people, who complain about off-topic posts, never seem to realize that they are adding to the problem they are complaining about it. 

Does the same hold true for those who post to express amazement at those who comment on off-topic posts? 
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Needless to say, I do not loan out my DVDs anymore.  People just don't see them the same way I do so will not treat them the same way I do.


Speaking of people not seeing them, when I switched from open racks holding my movies to a closed cabinet, the number of people wanting to borrow a movie went down drastically.  And it made the wife happier because the room looks much nicer now. If they're not on display, people don't browse.  And if they don't browse, they don't see anything they want to take home.  And it doesn't hurt that all my purchases now are Blu-ray.  So even if someone does want to borrow something, they can't.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Does the same hold true for those who post to express amazement at those who comment on off-topic posts? 


Ah, but there is the rub...I was not complaining. 

I accept that this forum has a proclivity to go off topic.  On occasion, as I did in the Olympics thread, I will ask that certain topics be moved to a different thread, but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.  I simply accept it, try to ignore the off-topic posts, and move on. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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And it doesn't hurt that all my purchases now are Blu-ray.  So even if someone does want to borrow something, they can't.


Yet another reason to go blu. 
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The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantEric V.
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I agree so I know not to buy it again cause it would have my rating and maybe notes why I did not like it. I tried the tab addon and could not figure it out.
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I agree so I know not to buy it again cause it would have my rating and maybe notes why I did not like it. I tried the tab addon and could not figure it out.

In that case I think your best bet in the meantime is to either:

- use tags
- co-opt one of the other tabs (Ordered or Wish List)
- set up a second database

Alternate tabs has been a common request for a while. I can't find a thread that specifically requests what you want, but here's one that deals with a "for sale" tab as well as custom tabs:

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=140712

You could add your thougths to that one, to let Ken know this is still a sought after feature.

There's also a number of people requesting custom tabs in the "If I had one wish thread" that Gerri started a while back:

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=273405

KM
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSnark
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This seems like a reasonable request. 

I'd probably even use it.  I rarely get rid of DVDs, but it would be nice to be able to track what happened to them if I do sell or replace them so I don't wonder where they ended up.  (I'm old donchaknow and my memory isn't what it used to be.)
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This seems like a reasonable request. 

I'd probably even use it.  I rarely get rid of DVDs, but it would be nice to be able to track what happened to them if I do sell or replace them so I don't wonder where they ended up.  (I'm old donchaknow and my memory isn't what it used to be.)


Don't feel bad.  Wehave all been there with, "who did, I give that to and why did I get rid of it?"
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorNadja
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Old maybe but that facial hair of yours is still pretty impressive!
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