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| Registered: October 6, 2008 |  Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | EDIT: northbloke said it. | | | | Last edited: by CalebAndCo |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Oops sorry, missed off a bit in my previous post -
How would the profiles come to be linked to one another? I can only think of one way and that would be for Ken (& Gerri) to go through the database and connect them. You could do it as a vote where you take a profile & submit other UPC/EAN/IDs to link to the first but by allowing it to be user controlled you could end up with multiple entries per title.
Either way, every time a title was re-released under a new code, it would need to be added to the link manually. I was thinking that you may be able to auto link by title but films can change title in different regions like the first Harry Potter as well as different films with the same name.
Note: Again, I have nothing against the idea in theory, I just think it would be a LOT of work to implement. |
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
Oops sorry, missed off a bit in my previous post -
How would the profiles come to be linked to one another? I can only think of one way and that would be for Ken (& Gerri) to go through the database and connect them. You could do it as a vote where you take a profile & submit other UPC/EAN/IDs to link to the first but by allowing it to be user controlled you could end up with multiple entries per title.
Either way, every time a title was re-released under a new code, it would need to be added to the link manually. I was thinking that you may be able to auto link by title but films can change title in different regions like the first Harry Potter as well as different films with the same name.
Note: Again, I have nothing against the idea in theory, I just think it would be a LOT of work to implement. It would be a fundamental restructuring of part of the database. A profile would be linked to an intermediate (linking) table which in turn would connect to a title table. The title table would be linked to Cast, Crew, etc. tables. Yes. A LOT of work. | | | | Last edited: by CalebAndCo |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Oh yeah, a lot of work and a lot of preparation, but I think the long-term benefits would make it worth it. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | Most definitely worth it. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | LOL, you are talking about a TOTAL redesign of the database to accomplish this. Not something I would do as a programmer for $30. But there is always Profiler Plus which is coming, we will see.
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | He's not doing it for $30, it's doing it for many multiples of $30.
Though such a feature would typically be a major increment in the version number (4.0) and it would most likely not be compatible* with 3.x (so no toggling back-n-forth like we are with 3.1 and 3.5).
* Does not mean not convertible | | | | Last edited: by Dr. Killpatient |
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| Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 853 |
| | Posted: | | | | I want to start by saying I think it is a great idea. I also agree that it would be a ton of work and require a large amount of space. I think everyone here has a really great point. I also believe that many of the pros out weigh the cons. We simply need to see what will happen next. Profiler Plus might repair this, or a new release of Profiler at 4.0 for $40.00 may do it as well. |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken can't charge for future updates as it would invalidate his "free updates for life" promise.
Doesn't mean he can't charge for extra (beyond the norm) features though which would be fine for me. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CalebAndCo: Quote:
It would be a fundamental restructuring of part of the database. A profile would be linked to an intermediate (linking) table which in turn would connect to a title table. The title table would be linked to Cast, Crew, etc. tables.
I do not think it is necessary to restructure the database. 3.5 already manages several headshots for the same actor, with folders per UPC. If you use the same idea, adding folders per UPC where you store alternate covers named by their release date, for example, you can have several possibilities for covers, each user choosing which he wants to display. Just an idea... | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I think a better idea is to have a sub section for the forum where people can request the re-issued covers or someone can post their scans (they can upload it to a file sharing web site). Then whoever wants it can get put the covers in their DVD Profiler (and then lock the images for that profile). |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote:
Ken can't charge for future updates as it would invalidate his "free updates for life" promise.
Doesn't mean he can't charge for extra (beyond the norm) features though which would be fine for me. He could do what Nero does, and sell plugins which would add the extra options. This wouldn't violate his initial promise but still make money from the extra features. And of course those who don't want the extra options don't have to pay for them. We also have to remember that Ken's income relies on new users buying a licence. I honestly believe if he doesn't introduce at least some way of logging and profiling re-releases, he will lose some custom, especially as there are probably more re-releases on the market now than first releases! |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting CalebAndCo:
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It would be a fundamental restructuring of part of the database. A profile would be linked to an intermediate (linking) table which in turn would connect to a title table. The title table would be linked to Cast, Crew, etc. tables.
I do not think it is necessary to restructure the database.
3.5 already manages several headshots for the same actor, with folders per UPC. If you use the same idea, adding folders per UPC where you store alternate covers named by their release date, for example, you can have several possibilities for covers, each user choosing which he wants to display.
Just an idea... Sorry, I think we've got two crossed-conversations going on. The restructuring of the database refers I believe to the mention of sharing cast & crew data to save space. You're right, it's certainly not necessary to do that to simply introduce more cover scans. I apologise if these conversations have got mixed up and confused some people. And you're right, adapting the new gallery system to include covers is also another way of achieving this. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I think a better idea is to have a sub section for the forum where people can request the re-issued covers or someone can post their scans (they can upload it to a file sharing web site). Then whoever wants it can get put the covers in their DVD Profiler (and then lock the images for that profile). Interesting idea. I still think it's the sort of thing that should be integrated into the program, but as a workaround or stop-gap it may be worth trying. I'm not sure on the legal issues as up to now we only share custom covers, so it maybe worth getting Ken's permission before starting a trial run. Edit: apologies for the posts, I just thought all three were worth replying to. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | It happens.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I think a better idea is to have a sub section for the forum where people can request the re-issued covers or someone can post their scans (they can upload it to a file sharing web site). Then whoever wants it can get put the covers in their DVD Profiler (and then lock the images for that profile). I quite like that one. I for one certainly don't mind uploading any of my scans that can't be contributed normally. |
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