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Need Iran in countrys.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorFHarlock
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Four titles out of almost 400,000, wow. That is definitely worth it. You are also perhaps the only user, or at best one of a handful. Use Other FH.

Skipnet50, that must finished. You are not alone in the World. You allwais thinking that you don't need will be not interesting to request and added to dvdprofiler.

Before that, you think I was only who need more languages, and that was false. Again with these, I am not only the one who have Iran's films.

Be more person, have a minimun respect with the other people of forum.



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I happen to fully understand that such is relatively useless, but that if I needed I would check Other and then set up a tag for Iran and guess what i then have the data, not only that i can search on it too. In other words the power is in the users hands.

Really, I will have a skipnet50 dvdprofiler tag system. He will has a million of billions of trillions tags. Solve always with tags, he must have very many tags, and very much time to datated all tags in that primitive system.

I think I used dvdprofiler for use a good database for dvd, not for used prehistoric program.





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When do you understand that this is Feature Request forum? This "Use tags, do it locally, use other field" is getting quite old...

I Think he undertand that, but because is not a function he will used, he think is not sense Ken works in that. Doing thinks like these, Ken will used all his time only in things aprobes by skipnet50.

Skipnet, You are not the only users of dvdprofiler, and all users are same, you are not more than the others. Is time to respect the others.






Tags, are good thing. Can do many things... but I don't think they will be used for everything. I think tags will be used for personal used, and common used, will be do by dvdprofiler directly, and can be correctly contribute for the other people.

With tags, I can filters by where room I have the title. Is personal and not sense contributed. But things has sense contribuited, have sense contribuited and good integrated in the program. Things like the language the commentary is or it is a dubbed or has subtitle for these, usually are in english with many subtitles, but I have spanish, french and basque commentarys, and comentarys without subtitles I can understand.
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Beyond needing Iran added as a country, which would be great, I'd like to have Afghanistan.  Sure, maybe I'm one of only a handful with the film Osama in my library, but really, would it be that much trouble?  For that matter, the only African country we have as an option for CoO is South Africa, despite thriving cinema in Burkina Faso, Kenya, and Egypt, to name just a few. 

If cinema production exists in a country, and I have a film from that country, I should be able to track it without resorting to tags.  Sorry, Skip.

Another good addition to countries would be options to check "multiple" and "other."  I think these would be a great addition for everyone.  Of course, "other" would only be needed if we can't have all the options for CoO.  The only current option for a film whose CoO is not listed is to leave that field blank.  That's also the only option for films that have multiple CoOs - for instance Mongol (Germany, Kazakhstan, Mongolia and Russia) or Paroxismus (Italy, Germany, UK).
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Cass and FH:

I understanbd what you are saying. But, as i have said before if I started demanding Feature for each and every niggle i was interested in, wll, it would blow up this particular forum. I don't happen to feel that EVERY little thing is of interest to the community at large...but that's just me..and why i make extensive use of the tags and my notes. I have also said previously that I am neither interested in coping with every language in Audio or Subs, we have more than enough right now...but I have also said that I think that Other should be opened up so that if you check it you would have the ability to define what it means for that film.

This kind of reminds me of a potential argument that someone could make that he should be allowed to Contribute his home movies, because all of his relatives use profiler and he wants them to be able to see what he has and even download the data. SAorry, like it or not Iran is just not a major player nor do they have a subsatntial audience. I am sure there are filmmakers in Ceylon. I am merely taking a very pragmatic view and trying to keep the data somewhat under control, like the user last week that wanted Cantonese (which is nothing nmore than a dialect of Chinese), well gee, let's include Dixie ya'll, or Bean Town (pahk the cah in the yahd), Da Bronx (fagedaoutit), it can get nuts FAST.

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SAorry, like it or not Iran is just not a major player nor do they have a subsatntial audience.


I don't see how they have less of an audience than some of the countries that are currently added in the program. Estonia and Iceland come to mind (who have minor population demographics) and a few others come to mind. Iran has a population of over 70,000,000 and conducts its own film festivals.
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Kat:

Don't expect me to argue with you. I already think we are overloaded.


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Cass and FH:
I understanbd what you are saying. But, as i have said before if I started demanding Feature for each and every niggle i was interested in, wll, it would blow up this particular forum.

Please, blow up this forum! I would love to see what contructive ideas you have instead using all your time to shot down other peole ideas. When was the last time you asked any new feature in this forum?
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I don't happen to feel that EVERY little thing is of interest to the community at large...but that's just me..and why i make extensive use of the tags and my notes.

So do others, but why not make field that we already have more usable? I think it could have all the countries in the world with option to keep 5-10 most used countries on the top of the list for usability. What's the harm on that?
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I have also said previously that I am neither interested in coping with every language in Audio or Subs, we have more than enough right now...

Yes, you have, but you wear the strongest stars and stripes glasses I've everf seen.. There is life outside of US you know. Actually there are much more non-R1 profiles in DVDP db.
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but I have also said that I think that Other should be opened up so that if you check it you would have the ability to define what it means for that film.

Workaround, if it will be fixed, why not to do it correctly?
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This kind of reminds me of a potential argument that someone could make that he should be allowed to Contribute his home movies, because all of his relatives use profiler and he wants them to be able to see what he has and even download the data.

Excluding downloading and cover scans, this is possible with manual profiles.

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SAorry, like it or not Iran is just not a major player nor do they have a subsatntial audience. I am sure there are filmmakers in Ceylon.

So let's add Ceylon. The problem is?
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I am merely taking a very pragmatic view

No, your just self-centered, completely different thing.
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Use Other.

There is no option "Other" available in the country of origin list.
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But there should be and it should be definable, Rho.

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But there should be and it should be definable, Rho.

Skip

I guess it is still bad advice to suggest to someone to use something that does not exist.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKulju
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But there should be and it should be definable

Why not just list all countries and keep 5-10 most used on top on the list for usability?
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But there should be and it should be definable

Why not just list all countries and keep 5-10 most used on top on the list for usability?

Kulju:

here is the major issue from my viewpoint. Every piece of data is one more piece of data that is included for contribution and one more piece of data to be evaluated by all regardless of interest or any other factor, then it has to be weighed again on update. There are what, somewhere around 190+ Countries in the world right now, this does not account for those countries have changed their names. Nor does it account for the number of "languages", dialects etc. This could rapidly spiral out of cointrol, since everybody wants to have THEIR country/language and those who fell differently are rapidly labeled as some sort of racist as you did me. Which is bot insulting and wrong. Like it or not Iran, while a film producer is not a major player in the industry in any way. I think the BEST answer to keep things under control, a little, is Other and have it be definable, that way the user can capture the data he wants, and we aren't dealing with an out of control listing.

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There are what, somewhere around 190+ Countries in the world right now, this does not account for those countries have changed their names.

Still I don't see any problem. We list 'em all on dropdown menu which keeps 5-10 users most used CoOs on top of that list.
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Nor does it account for the number of "languages", dialects etc.

What this has to do with CoO?
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This could rapidly spiral out of cointrol, since everybody wants to have THEIR country/language and those who fell differently are rapidly labeled as some sort of racist as you did me. Which is bot insulting and wrong.

I don't get how does it "spiral out of control" if we add all countries at once.
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Like it or not Iran, while a film producer is not a major player in the industry in any way.

So we should be able to profile "major players" only? Please define "major player". Is Romania a "major player"? They have less than 50 cinemas in a whole country, but still '4 luni, 3 saptamâni si 2 zile' won Golden Palm in Cannes last year. We also have Romania listed under CoO selection.
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here is the major issue from my viewpoint. Every piece of data is one more piece of data that is included for contribution and one more piece of data to be evaluated by all regardless of interest or any other factor, then it has to be weighed again on update. There are what, somewhere around 190+ Countries in the world right now, this does not account for those countries have changed their names.

Why is 190+ countries such a big deal? We have thousands of actors in the database, many of whom have only been in one single film. That doesn't seem to bother you. Why would two hundred countries be so difficult to handle? In my opinion, the fewer films there are from a certain country, the more interesting it is to keep track of them.
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To skipnet50. I think these forum is for made request. Litle or big request, all must be good recived, and made that are posible and positive. Is for all things that Ken not think in it, to help to he to know, what we need. You don't need, not try not implement need of others.

Skipnet50. Your actitude, is bad. The program is for all people, not for mayority.

SPIKNET50, you don't like these request? Ok. But don't boring to the others. Go away is you will be with that inapropied bad actituded.






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Sure, maybe I'm one of only a handful with the film Osama in my library, but really, would it be that much trouble?

I have these film also too.

I am slowy putting country to all my films but I not yet with Osama,and not see the problem yet.



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For that matter, the only African country we have as an option for CoO is South Africa, despite thriving cinema in Burkina Faso, Kenya, and Egypt, to name just a few.

I have wach some Egyptian films in festivals, and are very interesting. Now I have "Molade" african very interesting film about ablation with no country, but I am not all sure where is made, but I think is not made in South Africa.





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I have also said previously that I am neither interested in coping with every language in Audio or Subs, we have more than enough right now..

The problem is not there are many language, the problem is the gestion system must be improved. Don't try aboid the problem, try solve the real problem.





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This kind of reminds me of a potential argument that someone could make that he should be allowed to Contribute his home movies

Try not say ridiculus things. You know many people use dvdprofiler for his home movies. They can do, that they can't do is contribuited, because inline database is only of comercial titles. Ilogical arguments for ilogical actituds.





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ike it or not Iran is just not a major player nor do they have a subsatntial audience.
And because that we must ignored them? Like that star many holocaust. Minorities, has rights also, and must be respected.

And one thing, USA-s made more bad and innecesary films tham good films are made in countrys like Iran or other not listed countries.




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like the user last week that wanted Cantonese (which is nothing nmore than a dialect of Chinese),

Your world is very poor. Cantonese and Mandarin, that I know, write equal, but read very diferent, so diferent that is imposible understand with one the other, becasue many chinase films dubbed to the other. Cantonese is more tham a simple dialect. The languages in china, by write mode, are very diferent that we undertand for language.

Many asian dvd-s, have two chinasee audiotrack, very diferents and is logical diference them. True, for you and for your ear, will be equally understaning.

With afirmations like that, you probe how many short thinks have you.




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So do others, but why not make field that we already have more usable?

A constructive idea and positive actitud. Learn Spiknet50, learn how things must be do. Problems are for solve, not for ignoref.

If you don't go a constructive actitud, is better you must be quiet.






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There are what, somewhere around 190+ Countries in the world right now, this does not account for those countries have changed their names.

And how many actorr or crew we have only work in one film and not are a problem will be listed? Minor than 190?

The problem is not put the countries, the problem is for include, we must improve the gestion system, personalible usually countries and similar system.

Try solve problems, not created problems.





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This could rapidly spiral out of cointrol, since everybody wants to have THEIR country/language and those who fell differently

Is true with actual system if we star adding without control, we will have a problem. You say don't have the problem, I said we must see will problem can be will, and improve the system to avoid the problem will be adding, and we can star adding.






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Still I don't see any problem. We list 'em all on dropdown menu which keeps 5-10 users most used CoOs on top of that list.

Or made custonizable the most used, with easy system to find the less used.
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Last time I checked skip, apart from a few glory-releases like Hero and House of Flying Daggers (both of which iirc you had a US release for), your collection is highly Hollywood-centric.  Why do you insist on continually harassing every suggestion that helps those who have collections outside of these bounds?  DVD Profiler succeeds over other software for NOT retricting itself to US releases (something other sites were guilty of).  The reality is, it doesn't affect you.  How about keeping your attitude "local", and allowing suggestions?  Stop contributing angst and contribute something useful.  If you insist on sharing your opinion, do so, but don't continually attempt to derail any moves that would help others.

At the end of the day, don't we all want an accurate database?
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I think the easiest solution to CoO would be to make an open field, like Rating.  This would allow any country to be included, as well as multiple CoOs. We could then handle films like "Lord of the Rings" that has ping-ponged between the US and New Zealand without problem.
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