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Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

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Being bias is not the problem.  Being bias due to emotion and hearsay is the problem.  Being bias because of facts (specs, options, etc.) is the only way to judge something fairly.

I am sorry, but this single statement makes you look like a maroon.  If you have a bias, you can not judge something fairly.  If you think you can, then that word doesn't mean what you think it means. 

That's not true at all.  This makes you look a little green/naive about this.  Why do you think Lady Justice (usually in court rooms...a blind folded lady holding a scale) holds up a scale?  As more evidence falls on one side, one becomes more biased to that side (based on the evidence).  If you try to hold up the other side to make it seem even, when it's not, is being biased by something other than the evidence.  That's what a lot of people claiming to be "neutral" are doing.  That's what I try to point out in this thread and the other.

Being biased by the facts/evidence, is the ONLY way to be truly neutral or fair.

Biased by the evidence?  Are you serious?  Like I said, that word does not mean what you think it means.

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Google "define: biased".  I'm talking about the 3rd defintion, of course.

Let us look at the 3rd definition, shall we?

favoring one person or side over another; "a biased account of the trial"; "a decision that was partial to the defendant"

It says 'favoring one person or side over another'.  It says nothing about weighing the evidence and coming to a conclusion...which is what they do in a trial.  I know why you tried to 'cherry pick' that definition, but you probably should have clicked on the link.  Google left out some important parts of the definition: "biased, colored, coloured, one-sided, slanted".

I will give you better definitions of the word so that you don't make this mistake again. 

From M-W.com:

exhibiting or characterized by bias; especially : prejudiced

From Google:

Leaning towards a particular point of view and usually unable to look at every aspect of an issue in an objective or non-prejudiced way.

A bias is a prejudice in a general or specific sense, usually in the sense for having a preference to one particular point of view or ideological perspective

And please, before you try and spin your way out of this, we are discussing language and word meaning here.  This is an area I am an expert in.  To say I am an expert parser would be an understatement. 

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I said google "biased".  Here's what you should have come up with.

The 3rd definition is: favoring one person or side over another

Now, are we on the same page?

Did you read my post?  Not only was I on the same page, I was several pages ahead.  I did, after all, include that definition in my post.  In case you missed it, it was right under the sentence, "Let us look at the 3rd definition, shall we?"  I am not sure how you missed it. 

And, had you clicked on the link associated with that definition, you would have found the complete definition: biased, colored, coloured, one-sided, slanted (favoring one person or side over another) "a biased account of the trial"; "a decision that was partial to the defendant"

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EDIT: Words have more than one meaning for a reason.

Yes, words have more than one meaning.  But in the context of having an opinion, which is what started this discussion, the word 'biased' has only one.  Yes, there are different ways that meaning is expressed but, in the end, it all comes down to one word...'prejudiced'.

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I used a definition that you obviously weren't familiar with...that's all.

There, I fixed that for you.    And, no, you did not use a definition that I wasn't familiar with.  You made up a definition to try and dig yourself out of a grammatical hole.  The word you should have used was 'unbiased' or, since you brought up the legal system, 'impartial'...as in an impartial jury.  Google that word and you will see what I mean.

I told you that I was an expert in this area.  You really should not play this game.  You can not win.  Your Kung-Fu is not strong. 

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You LOVE changing the parameters...don't you?  1 week?  That was 1 month.

WOW you are struggling lately!!

The NPD numbers were for the month of September. Halo 3 was released in the US on the 25th of September. There are 30 days in September. Therefore Halo 3 sold 3.3 million copies in the US in 6 days. 6 days is less than a week. Do you understand now or do you need some bar charts and images explaining how calendars work?

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My discussion about the chart wasn't in the context of opinion.  This was in context of facts.  Maybe that's why you didn't understand what I was saying.  Slanted also works well with what I'm saying.  Slanted (scales can slant) by the facts would be another way of using it.

Sorry, but you are still wrong.  One can not be slanted by the facts.  One can be convinced or persuaded, but being slanted towards a particular position implies prejudice.  Btw, scales don't slant, they tilt or tip.  You can tip the balance towards one side or the other, you can't slant the balance. 

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Thank you correcting my grammatical error (wasn't...to weren't).  That doesn't give you any more authority on the subject matter, by the way.  Does this mean I should start correcting your errors?  I've allowed more than a few things slip by.

I fixed that one for you as well.    And you are correct, my correction of your mistake doesn't give me any authority on the subject matter.  My education, however, does.  In the real world, people judge you by the words you use and the manner in which you express those words.  I make it a point to use the proper words in their proper context.

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There is no hole to dig out of.  You saw the definition (in the context that I used), so that's the end of it.  I could have used other words, but that's the beauty of English.  I can use more than one word that means practically the same thing.

'Practically the same thing'?  Ah well, you can't say I didn't try. 

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You don't have to admit that you are wrong (you usually don't anyway), but the definition is right in front of you.  There is no need to try to dig beyond the definition presented.

Oh, I am more than willing to admit when I am wrong.  The thing is, I am not wrong in this case.  You used the word 'bias' incorrectly.  Rather than admit the mistake, you attemted to create your own definition.  I don't know why I am surprised, that seems to be your M.O. 

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Sorry, but you are still wrong.  One can not be slanted by the facts.  One can be convinced or persuaded, but being slanted towards a particular position implies prejudice.  Btw, scales don't slant, they tilt or tip.  You can tip the balance towards one side or the other, you can't slant the balance. 

If a seesaw is perfectly balanced horizontally and someone tips or tilts it, is it not slanted?  That's what I thought.  Case closed.

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I fixed that one for you as well.    And you are correct, my correction of your mistake doesn't give me any authority on the subject matter.  My education, however, does.  In the real world, people judge you by the words you use and the manner in which you express those words.  I make it a point to use the proper words in their proper context.

Okay, you want to play.  Let's play.  Your education didn't seem to make you aware that there is a comma after the word "and".  The mistake is located at the beginning of your second sentence within this blocked quote.  Typing in an online forum is one thing.  Speaking and/or writing in a proper setting is quite another thing.  That is why I USUALLY don't hold people to that standard outside of the workplace.

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'Practically the same thing'?  Ah well, you can't say I didn't try. 

I thought you were suppose to be educated.  Don't you understand what a synonym is?  A word that is similar in meaning, but not the same.  That's why I said, "...practically the same thing."  I hope you didn't pay for that education of yours.   Just remember, you wanted to play.

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Oh, I am more than willing to admit when I am wrong.  The thing is, I am not wrong in this case.  You used the word 'bias' incorrectly.  Rather than admit the mistake, you attemted to create your own definition.  I don't know why I am surprised, that seems to be your M.O. 

Obviously, you are not MORE THAN WILLING to admit when you are wrong.  The definition was right there in front of you, but you did not except that.  You felt the need to try to concoct a way around that, but you can't.  The definition is there for ALL to see.

By the way, your third sentence has a misspelled word.  You spelled "attemted", when you meant to spell the word "attempted".  That's quite an education you have there.  Again, remember, you wanted to play.

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If a seesaw is perfectly balanced horizontally and someone tips or tilts it, is it not slanted?  That's what I thought.  Case closed.

Were we talking about a seesaw?  No, I didn't think so.  Case closed.

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Okay, you want to play.  Let's play.  Your education didn't seem to make you aware that there is a comma after the word "and".  The mistake is located at the beginning of your second sentence within this blocked quote.  Typing in an online forum is one thing.  Speaking and/or writing in a proper setting is quite another thing.  That is why I USUALLY don't hold people to that standard outside of the workplace.

Actually, that comma is optional, but I will give you that one.  See how I can admit I might be wrong? 

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I thought you were suppose to be educated.  Don't you understand what a synonym is?  A word that is similar in meaning, but not the same.  That's why I said, "...practically the same thing."  I hope you didn't pay for that education of yours.   Just remember, you wanted to play.

A synonym is one of TWO words that has the same or nearly the same meaning.  Bias can not be a synonym  for bias.  Come on now, you are making this way too easy.

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Obviously, you are not MORE THAN WILLING to admit when you are wrong.  The definition was right there in front of you, but you did not except that.  You felt the need to try to concoct a way around that, but you can't.  The definition is there for ALL to see.

I didn't need to concoct anything.  You are correct, the meaning is there for all to see...if you click the link.  Unlike you, I don't use a partial definition.  I clicked the link and found the complete definition.

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By the way, your third sentence has a misspelled word.  You spelled "attemted", when you meant to spell the word "attempted".  That's quite an education you have there.  Again, remember, you wanted to play.

Typos happen...even to the best of us.  Yet another mistake I am willing to admit I made. 

sow wat our whee ourguing hear anyweighs?

Consoles...Math....Stats.....and now English... What about history, science, and art? And I thought I was through with school.

I know it is easy to get off base but come on? This might be a new one even for this forum.

So really what is the question we are trying to resolve? Halo 3 selling a lot of units. 3.3004082 units or 3.3004083 units?

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The NPD numbers (US) are directly used by www.vgchartz.com.

Prove that. Absolutely no mention of NPD providing the figures for VG Chartz anywhere on the vgchartz website.