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Game Consoles.....The good, the bad, and the ugly
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PS3 2.10 Fiirmware tomorrow

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Find out what features are included in PS3 system software update 2.10.

An update to the PS3 system software was released on December 18, 2007. If you update your PS3 system, the system software version will be 2.10 and the following features will be updated. In order to download PS3 system software version 2.10, you will need a minimum 120Mb of free space on either the PS3 Hard Disk Drive (System Update) or on removable storage media (PC Update).

The PLAYSTATION 3 system software version 2.10 update includes the following:

* Voice Changer

The Voice Changer feature has been added to voice / video chat. Visit the Voice Changer guide in Help & Support under PS3 at eu.playstation.com for more details.

Using this feature, you can change the tone of a voice that is input from an audio device such as a microphone. High and low-pitched tones can each be adjusted to five preset levels. You can vary the tone when using voice / video chat under Friends.


Other new or revised features in version 2.10

Music

* You can now select [Type 3] as an option under Settings > [Music Settings] > [Bitmapping]. This bitmapping process was developed specifically for the PS3TM system to enhance audio playback.

Video

* DivX and VC-1 (WMV) have been added to the types of files that can be played. *
* Blu-ray Disc Profile 1.1 is now supported. **
* [BD Data Utility] has been added. ***

*- To play VC-1 (WMV) format files, you must go to Settings > [System Settings] and set [Enable WMA Playback].
- Copyright-protected files or files that were encoded by using DivX 3.11 cannot be played. - Files that are 2GB or more cannot be played.
** You may now be able to use several additional features such as playback of two videos at the same time with Profile 1.1-compatible Blu-ray Discs. The available features vary depending on the disc.
*** The management data that is used by the Blu-ray Disc is saved.

Note:

* This system software update includes all features contained in previous versions.
* The new system software will preserve any settings previously made to the PLAYSTATION 3. Depending on the software title, you may not be able to play without first updating the PS3 system software.
* Do not perform updates using any data other than the official update data provided by Sony Computer Entertainment over a network or on disc media, and do not perform updates by methods other than those described in the product documentation or in this site. If an update is performed using data from another source, by another method, or with a PS3 system that has been altered or modified in any way, the PS3 system may not operate properly and may not be able to install the official update data. Any of these actions may void the PS3 system warranty and affect your ability to obtain warranty services and repair services from Sony Computer Entertainment.


The voice chat thing sounds like what the Xbox 1 had and that was garbage, Divx and VC1 WMV sound good but the 2GB limitation is a shame. The 360 had a full FAQ on what can and cant be played with the Fall 07 update, lets hope Sony do the same (sidenote - I have been very impressed with what the 360 can play - I can even do 1080p 10-15mbps WMV files with 5.1 WMA using windows media sharing over a pretty lousy 802.11g network and it works perfectly. I hope PS3 can match it).

But the good news is Profile 1.1. The fact it hadn't been added yet 6 weeks after Nov 1st was starting to worry me but if this leak is true, there should be alot of happy BD consumers/PS3 owners come tomorrow. Now Sony have to get to DTS-HD MA decoding and there will be nothing left to moan about PS3 BD. (But I will still moan about region coding  )

I don't remember that voice chat option with the Xbox (still have mine).  Personally, I don't think Sony needs a full FAQ on what can't be played (beyond the information that is released with each update...like above).

The PS3 has been doing 1080p above 10-15Mbps with AVC with 5.1 audio for quite some time now via 802.11G (supplied with the PS3).  Any video file can be streamed from your PC to your PS3 using Tversity.  I hope the Xbox 360 can match the PS3's lossless audio and/or 7.1 surround.

I will be really happy when it is in the BDA's best interest to allow Sony to release that feature to PS3 consumers.  I have a lot of Fox titles that I would like to rewatch with DTS-HD MA.
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PS3 F/W 2.1 is now live. D/L'ing now.
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I don't remember that voice chat option with the Xbox (still have mine).  Personally, I don't think Sony needs a full FAQ on what can't be played (beyond the information that is released with each update...like above).


Wrong there are hundreds of questions to ask about video playback. Have a look at the Xbox video FAQ. Details each and every container, file format, resolution and playback source that will work and has been tested. Sony give us "DivX and VC-1 (WMV) have been added to the types of files that can be played."

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The PS3 has been doing 1080p above 10-15Mbps with AVC with 5.1 audio for quite some time now via 802.11G (supplied with the PS3).  Any video file can be streamed from your PC to your PS3 using Tversity.  I hope the Xbox 360 can match the PS3's lossless audio and/or 7.1 surround.


But what file format are you talking about? mp4? How do you encode the 5.1 in an mp4? the PS3 wont playback 5.1 AAC, and muxing AC3 into mp4 containers is a nightmare. See this is where a video FAQ comes in handy.

Tversity involves transcoding on the fly, not many pcs can do that at 1080p. Native support from the media center is much much easier.

Lossless audio and or 7.1 surround, what are you talking about you idiot? How many commonly used file formats on home computers use either? ABSOLUTELY NONE. 
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I don't remember that voice chat option with the Xbox (still have mine).  Personally, I don't think Sony needs a full FAQ on what can't be played (beyond the information that is released with each update...like above).


Wrong there are hundreds of questions to ask about video playback. Have a look at the Xbox video FAQ. Details each and every container, file format, resolution and playback source that will work and has been tested. Sony give us "DivX and VC-1 (WMV) have been added to the types of files that can be played."

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The PS3 has been doing 1080p above 10-15Mbps with AVC with 5.1 audio for quite some time now via 802.11G (supplied with the PS3).  Any video file can be streamed from your PC to your PS3 using Tversity.  I hope the Xbox 360 can match the PS3's lossless audio and/or 7.1 surround.


But what file format are you talking about? mp4? How do you encode the 5.1 in an mp4? the PS3 wont playback 5.1 AAC, and muxing AC3 into mp4 containers is a nightmare. See this is where a video FAQ comes in handy.

Tversity involves transcoding on the fly, not many pcs can do that at 1080p. Native support from the media center is much much easier.

Lossless audio and or 7.1 surround, what are you talking about you idiot? How many commonly used file formats on home computers use either? ABSOLUTELY NONE. 

I said, PERSONALLY, I don't think Sony needs the FAQ you are asking for.  There is no right or wrong to it.

Native support from media center REQUIRES media center software from MS at what cost?  Native support from Vista software requires Vista software from MS at what cost?  That's what I'm talking about.  Tversity works just fine on my 4 year old processor for content other than 1080p.  For 1080p content I have Blu-ray.  Other 1080p content WITH 5.1 surround sound can be played from Hitachi Blu-ray camcorders on the PS3.

How can you talk about commonly used file formats on home computers, when you are talking about 1080p video content w/ 5.1 surround being played on the 360 via PC?  How COMMON is that?  Just think about your statement for a minute.  BTW, 7.1 A/V receivers are quite common.  Guess what PS3s and 360 are commonly hooked up to...come on...guess.  Here is a hint...it's NOT a computer.
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PS3 F/W 2.1 is now live. D/L'ing now.

Downloaded it at mid-night.  It took about 5 minutes via WiFi (120MB).

DivX playback seems to be flawless. 
The web browser seems to be a little faster.  You can now see the wallpaper while surfing the web.
I'll try the bitmapping functions later (for improving CD audio playback).
I might buy Hairspray today to test out the PiP functionality.

I'm about to start the download for my PSP.  Internet radio functionality and RSS picture support is suppose to be added.
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Again you are talking complete and utter garbage.

I didn't mention Windows Media Center or Vista once. You admitted your pc cant transcode to 1080p, so sharing the file from the pc straight to the console where the console can playback the file is the only solution.

"7.1 lossless" is still totally irrelevant in the realm of media sharing from pc to console. You still have no idea what you are talking about.
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DivX playback seems to be flawless.

It would seem to be to you but it isnt, I have already found many files that give the "data is corrupt" error message. A video faq from sony would help to explain why these files cannot be played (ps the same files play fine on my 360).

The 2GB file limit renders the whole feature slightly useless anyway.
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Again you are talking complete and utter garbage.

I didn't mention Windows Media Center or Vista once. You admitted your pc cant transcode to 1080p, so sharing the file from the pc straight to the console where the console can playback the file is the only solution.

You didn't mention "media center"?  Look back at your post about the PS3 update.  BTW, how else would you get the information over 802.11G to you Xbox 360?  If there is another way, I would sure like to know.

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"7.1 lossless" is still totally irrelevant in the realm of media sharing from pc to console. You still have no idea what you are talking about.

Sure.  If you close in the overall subject of video and audio playback down to media sharing ONLY, then you might have a point.  But even then, the 5.1 sound you were talking about would have to processed and/or outputted via something, right?  That would still validate 7.1 surround sound AND lossless audio.
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DivX playback seems to be flawless.

It would seem to be to you but it isnt, I have already found many files that give the "data is corrupt" error message. A video faq from sony would help to explain why these files cannot be played (ps the same files play fine on my 360).

The 2GB file limit renders the whole feature slightly useless anyway.

I said it SEEMS (key word) to be flawless.  ALL my DivX content plays back flawlessly.  Are you sure you are talking about DivX and not XviD files?  Certain types of XviD files won't play because of the audio container.  From what I understand, you should make sure your avi files have DivX data.  If you have any links to support your DivX playback problem statements, now is the time to bring those forward.  Let's find out what you are talking about...specifically.  Remember, the PS3 will be DivX CERTIFIED.  The Xbox 360 just has playback support.

BTW, the 2GB limit can be overcome by ADDING DRM to the file.  There are programs available for that (like Media-DRM Packager 2).  That should help you out.
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PS3 F/W 2.1 is now live. D/L'ing now.

Downloaded it at mid-night.  It took about 5 minutes via WiFi (120MB).

DivX playback seems to be flawless. 
The web browser seems to be a little faster.  You can now see the wallpaper while surfing the web.
I'll try the bitmapping functions later (for improving CD audio playback).
I might buy Hairspray today to test out the PiP functionality.

I'm about to start the download for my PSP.  Internet radio functionality and RSS picture support is suppose to be added.

It seems that this PS3 update also allows ALL PS1 games to be played via Remote Play on the PSP! 
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You didn't mention "media center"?  Look back at your post about the PS3 update.  BTW, how else would you get the information over 802.11G to you Xbox 360?  If there is another way, I would sure like to know.

windows media player -> options -> Library -> Configure Sharing -> Share my media.

Pretty simple. Even for you.

The term "media center" as I used it referred in this case to the Xbox 360 console (ie the piece of equipment that can play multiple media types) and not the Microsoft OS/Software.

Here is a reference.com definition of the term "media center":

A media center is a computer adapted for playing music, watching movies and viewing pictures stored on a local hard drive or on a (sometimes wireless) network, watching DVD movies and often for watching and recording television broadcasts.

Understand?

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"7.1 lossless" is still totally irrelevant in the realm of media sharing from pc to console. You still have no idea what you are talking about.

Sure.  If you close in the overall subject of video and audio playback down to media sharing ONLY, then you might have a point.  But even then, the 5.1 sound you were talking about would have to processed and/or outputted via something, right?  That would still validate 7.1 surround sound AND lossless audio.

What are you talking about? The file formats used in media sharing are 2 channel mp3, 2 channel aac, or 5.1 AC3 or 5.1 WMA. All these formats are lossy compressed audio formats. WHERE DOES LOSSLESS AUDIO COME INTO IT? There are absolutely ZERO computer file formats that contain lossless audio.

Or do you think that the PS3 can convert the 384kbps AC3 track in an AVI file into glorious "Lossless" audio? 
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The Xbox 360 just has playback support.

And it plays all the files I have, the PS3 cannot.

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BTW, the 2GB limit can be overcome by ADDING DRM to the file.  There are programs available for that (like Media-DRM Packager 2).  That should help you out.

No thanks, i'll just play them all on the 360.
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DivX content being served up by Sony Pictures Television for DivX certified hardware.

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DivX announced Sony Pictures Television will be offering "high quality, secure" content for download-to-own to DivX Certified hardware (like the PlayStation 3 or DSM-330, but probably definitely not the Xbox 360). Little details like who will actually sell this content, what shows will be available (our fingers are crossed for syndicated Jeopardy HD episodes) and when aren't mentioned, but this is another step as it promotes itself as a platform for legitimate content distribution.

Update: We contacted DivX and confirmed the Xbox 360 is not a Divx Certified device and will not play this content, while DivX Connected devices like the DSM-330 will.
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DRM locked DivX files for download? Ewww no thanks. There's been 720p DRM-laden VC-1 files on Xbox Live marketplace for years now and I wouldn't touch them either. I'll stick to optical media thanks!
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