Quoting skipnet50:

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That is correct there is no consensus. But there is an ESTABLISHED convention.

The difference  here is that regardless of whatever I might think personally, I recognize that there is a Convention in place that has been followed for some time now and that however many users have sp[ent a significant amount of time in creating those images. I am not willing, without an overwhelming and I do mean overwhelming consensus, to say to those users "Oh, I am sorry we are going to do it this way now and all that work you have done has been wasted." Time is money Dan, and those hours that have been spent represent a significant investment, versus somebody who just wants to change direction. I am sorry, that's the way I feel about it, what I might think otherwise is absolutely irrelevant. If when the times comes I choose that I don't want the banners, I can do that and keep it locally, I don't have to impose my will on the database contrary to popular opinion.

Skip

That isn't true, Skip.

There are more images of the entire case than anything else. If we go to just a "banner" you are going against what the majority already is. As I have told you countless times, you don't get it.

As I have said, and here it is again, there is no consensus and there is no "convention".

Quoting lyonsden5:

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Really?!?

Of the 127 I have on in my collection between owned and wishlist only 8 of them were of the entire case as you describe. Two of those were "promo" type shots where no one has submitted a scan yet. That is 6 out of 127.

Cool. I was going to count them when I got home tonight. Your stats match my recollection.

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They only way you can say that is "more" is if ytou have been hanging out with Ascended_Saiyan 

 

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There IS an established convention, whether you want to admit it or not.    It is to include the banner.

Agreed. Thanks for the count! 

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Quoting Dan W:

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That isn't true, Skip.

There are more images of the entire case than anything else. If we go to just a "banner" you are going against what the majority already is. As I have told you countless times, you don't get it.

As I have said, and here it is again, there is no consensus and there is no "convention".

Just looked at each of my HD On-line profiles and out of the 192 HD profiles that everyone is welcome to check, there are only 18 full case scans - 0 covers and 174 covers with banners.

Dan, your lavish generalizations from your “there are quite a few of those combo discs and most of them are like the one I posted.” to the above quote, boggles the mind!

Paul

I also looked up all HD-DVD (US) releases. Out of 180 profiles with real scans (no pre-release covers) only 5 got full case scans and another 5 got scans without the banner...

Quoting lyonsden5:

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Quoting Dan W:

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That isn't true, Skip.

There are more images of the entire case than anything else. If we go to just a "banner" you are going against what the majority already is. As I have told you countless times, you don't get it.

As I have said, and here it is again, there is no consensus and there is no "convention".

Really?!?

Of the 127 I have on in my collection between owned and wishlist only 8 of them were of the entire case as you describe. Two of those were "promo" type shots where no one has submitted a scan yet. That is 6 out of 127. They only way you can say that is "more" is if ytou have been hanging out with Ascended_Saiyan   

There IS an established convention, whether you want to admit it or not.    It is to include the banner.

Rick, James, Paul, Dirk -- excellent work.  Skip too, appreciate the kind words.

Oh, and one of the "faulty" scans is getting a proper one in the db right now, so you can strike off that.

Sadly, though, I think we'd have better luck with Ascended_Saiyan...

Quoting dirk_steitz:

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I also looked up all HD-DVD (US) releases. Out of 180 profiles with real scans (no pre-release covers) only 5 got full case scans and another 5 got scans without the banner...

Why did you only look at the US releases? What about Blue-ray? I have poked through the database (US, UK, Germany; HD DVD and Blue-Ray) and I have seen more or less the same amount of cover scans with the banner (and only the banner) as without. But most of the profiles had either a promotional picture (usually with the case) or no picture at all. Sometimes (not so often) the hole case was scanned (usually resulting in poor quality).

Aieeeeeeee it's Catzilla.

Skip

cool picture.

i actually added a Scan of HD-DVD Australia Version from
V for Vendatta without Banner and Case. (the one in the DB is without Back Image)
That`s how i always will handle this,
if this change later, i will not add HD Covers anymore to the DB.
I will scan then and add, then lock the Image Profile. 


The Format of the Cover is actully this, the Banner is on the Case, not the Paper.
And for me, it`s too much time wasting searching, downloading the actual right banner, resize the Scan and add the Banner!
When this will be made automaticly by the Server Upload Process, then i give a shiitake mushroom about it.
But i will never ever add a banner.

That`s my Opinion.

regards
michael