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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
But here I've to repeat my argument against any form of additional title: I can't imagine to reach the goal of differentiating versions of a film (master material) by adding an additional title field. There But as I understand this request - its not to differentiate the dvds. Its merely to hold additional information about the dvd. | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
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But here I've to repeat my argument against any form of additional title: I can't imagine to reach the goal of differentiating versions of a film (master material) by adding an additional title field. There
But as I understand this request - its not to differentiate the dvds. Its merely to hold additional information about the dvd. Yes. You're correct. The title to go in the Master title field is the title that shows in the film credits when you press play film on the dvd.This title is not on the cover, not the original release title when the film was released in it's own country. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
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Btw, I do own non-English movies. Don't assume that what you see in the online list is all that I own.
So you also know that best porn comes from Germany? That's a matter of personal opinion, and highly subjective. More than that I will not say. | | | John
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 31 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lithurge: Quote:
The title to go in the Master title field is the title that shows in the film credits when you press play film on the dvd. Exactly, we can rename "Master Title" as "Titlescreen". Yesterday, I saw another movie, and another case was found : My DVD is called : Zombie 4: After Deathit's an Italian movie, the Original Title is : Oltre la morteThe titlescreen is : After DeathThe reason is that the English Master ( After Death) was used as video, the result is that the DVD contains a French and an English soundtrack, no Italian soundtrack available for this Italian movie because the Master is English. | | | | arcade games database. | | | | Last edited: by alexis.bousiges |
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| Registered: March 26, 2007 | | Posts: 196 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lithurge: Quote:
The title to go in the Master title field is the title that shows in the film credits when you press play film on the dvd.
We already have that. According to the rules, that goes into "Title". What you're asking for is "Cover Title", to hold whatever it is that they decided to print on the case. Which I'm totally fine with, by the way. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting smeehrrr: Quote:
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The title to go in the Master title field is the title that shows in the film credits when you press play film on the dvd.
We already have that. According to the rules, that goes into "Title". What you're asking for is "Cover Title", to hold whatever it is that they decided to print on the case. Which I'm totally fine with, by the way. The trouble is it makes no sense to have the "Title" as something that bears no relation to what you see on the cover. It makes it extremely difficult to add by title. The 'use the credits' rule was introduced to prevent issues where there was a minor variance of the title between cover and film credits. This scenario was not considered. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 413 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's not only European movies where this Master title field is needed.
I have now in my hands a US movie from 1996. Starring Kurt Russell and Halle Berry, directed by Stuart Baird. Finnish title is "Ratkaisun hetket".
The small print on back cover shows that the original title is "Executive Decision". IMDb says the title is "Executive Decision" (yeah, yeah, I know all about the value of that information). Region 1 profile of this movie is titled "Executive Decision". Therefore I assume that the original title is "Executive Decision".
However, the opening credits show that the title is "Critical Decision".
Now I have three titles for this movie: "Ratkaisun hetket" goes into the Title field since I'm validating the profile of the Finnish release. What is the original title? The one I see on screen or the one which referred to everywhere else?
This is the first time I have seen a foreign (= non-Finnish) movie where the on-screen title differs from the original title (excluding some animations).
In this case a Master Title field would be handy for saving that piece of information. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | "Critical Decision"?  The title is indeed Executive Decision<twitching>. And more  I think. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
"Critical Decision"? The title is indeed Executive Decision<twitching>. And more I think.
Skip Exceedingly strange. ??? My copy says "Executive Decision." | | | John
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Exceedingly strange. ??? My copy says "Executive Decision." jykke has the Finnish DVD not the US one.. (I assume) | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 413 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
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Exceedingly strange. ??? My copy says "Executive Decision."
jykke has the Finnish DVD not the US one.. (I assume) I thought that was obvious. I wouldn't use Finnish, localized title for a US release. I know there would be many no-votes if I do that. Exceedingly strange if Rifter didn't understand that  But maybe he and Skip now understand where this proposed new title field is needed, if they already didn't... somehow I feel it wasn't completely clear.  As I said, in my collection this is the only one I know where I would need this Master Title field. I think I have to check my Pasolini movies and their on-screen titles. I don't remember how they were titled. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, yes and no, jykke. Let me try to explain what i am thinking. I gather that Critical Decision would be the LITERAL translation of the Finnish title, would that be correct, if that is true I have mixed emotions as to the relevance of a LITERAL translation. But I will keep following this...understand I am NOT taking a precise position on it.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 413 |
| | Posted: | | | | Critical Decision is not a translation of the Finnish title. Why would it even be that. This is a foreign movie in Finland and therefore the Finnish title is a translation of the on-screen/original title (or something else the importer thought sounds good as a Finnish title).
I found out that Critical Decision is the title this movie had in Belgium (Wikipedia). For some reason the movie producers or distributors (I don't know does these things) manufactured whole new prints of this movie using this alternate title and that's the print which was used for this DVD.
This really is the first time I have seen a US movie where the on-screen title is different than the original title. What we see in movie theaters and on DVD are copies of the original prints. When there is a translated Finnish title, it is displayed in the subtitle text. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,436 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting jykke: Quote:
For some reason the movie producers or distributors (I don't know does these things) manufactured whole new prints of this movie using this alternate title and that's the print which was used for this DVD. That is exactly what this feature request is about... | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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