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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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To skipnet50. I think these forum is for made request. Litle or big request, all must be good recived, and made that are posible and positive. Is for all things that Ken not think in it, to help to he to know, what we need. You don't need, not try not implement need of others.

Skipnet50. Your actitude, is bad. The program is for all people, not for mayority.

SPIKNET50, you don't like these request? Ok. But don't boring to the others. Go away is you will be with that inapropied bad actituded.






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Sure, maybe I'm one of only a handful with the film Osama in my library, but really, would it be that much trouble?

I have these film also too.

I am slowy putting country to all my films but I not yet with Osama,and not see the problem yet.



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For that matter, the only African country we have as an option for CoO is South Africa, despite thriving cinema in Burkina Faso, Kenya, and Egypt, to name just a few.

I have wach some Egyptian films in festivals, and are very interesting. Now I have "Molade" african very interesting film about ablation with no country, but I am not all sure where is made, but I think is not made in South Africa.





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I have also said previously that I am neither interested in coping with every language in Audio or Subs, we have more than enough right now..

The problem is not there are many language, the problem is the gestion system must be improved. Don't try aboid the problem, try solve the real problem.





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This kind of reminds me of a potential argument that someone could make that he should be allowed to Contribute his home movies

Try not say ridiculus things. You know many people use dvdprofiler for his home movies. They can do, that they can't do is contribuited, because inline database is only of comercial titles. Ilogical arguments for ilogical actituds.





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ike it or not Iran is just not a major player nor do they have a subsatntial audience.
And because that we must ignored them? Like that star many holocaust. Minorities, has rights also, and must be respected.

And one thing, USA-s made more bad and innecesary films tham good films are made in countrys like Iran or other not listed countries.




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like the user last week that wanted Cantonese (which is nothing nmore than a dialect of Chinese),

Your world is very poor. Cantonese and Mandarin, that I know, write equal, but read very diferent, so diferent that is imposible understand with one the other, becasue many chinase films dubbed to the other. Cantonese is more tham a simple dialect. The languages in china, by write mode, are very diferent that we undertand for language.

Many asian dvd-s, have two chinasee audiotrack, very diferents and is logical diference them. True, for you and for your ear, will be equally understaning.

With afirmations like that, you probe how many short thinks have you.




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So do others, but why not make field that we already have more usable?

A constructive idea and positive actitud. Learn Spiknet50, learn how things must be do. Problems are for solve, not for ignoref.

If you don't go a constructive actitud, is better you must be quiet.






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There are what, somewhere around 190+ Countries in the world right now, this does not account for those countries have changed their names.

And how many actorr or crew we have only work in one film and not are a problem will be listed? Minor than 190?

The problem is not put the countries, the problem is for include, we must improve the gestion system, personalible usually countries and similar system.

Try solve problems, not created problems.





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This could rapidly spiral out of cointrol, since everybody wants to have THEIR country/language and those who fell differently

Is true with actual system if we star adding without control, we will have a problem. You say don't have the problem, I said we must see will problem can be will, and improve the system to avoid the problem will be adding, and we can star adding.






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Still I don't see any problem. We list 'em all on dropdown menu which keeps 5-10 users most used CoOs on top of that list.

Or made custonizable the most used, with easy system to find the less used.

Talk about bad attitude. Let me say thjis FH, you are free to make a request, i am also free to state my opinion of suh a request. I judghed your idea, I made no personal attack on YOU or Kulju and I will not be told by YOU, KULJU or anyone else that i am not allowed top express my opinions, this is not the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany.

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I think the easiest solution to CoO would be to make an open field, like Rating.  This would allow any country to be included, as well as multiple CoOs.


That's a wonderful idea.  It sounds like that would be just as easy, if not more so, as adding countries to the current dropdown field.  And we would still be able to sort & chart by them.

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At the end of the day, don't we all want an accurate database?


Precisely.  I would like my database to be as accurate as humanly possible.  Skip, you have often commented that you are dedicated to making your database completely accurate.  So are many of the rest of us.  I know I want my database to be completely accurate to the last detail of data that I'm interested in.  And country of origin is one of those details.

Yes, I could keep track of the CoO for my foreign films via country using tags.  But then I couldn't have fun with charts, graphs and statistics for them.  They aren't included.  I also can't sort by tags. 

But as it stands I own a film from Afghanistan, have films from Yugoslavia, Chile, Argentina, Morocco, Iran, & Cuba on my wishlist, and there's no way to sort them or track them by CoO.  So, please don't tell me I don't need more countries or I should work around it by changing countries I'm not currently using to one I need.  I may need that country in the future as it is.  I enjoy - often a great deal - non-US film.

There seems to be a lot of agreement for the most part here.  The majority may not use it, but they seem to see the value of being able to correctly ID a film's country of origin (either by open field or by adding to the drop down).

Lastly, may I say thank you to the OP and later posters for inspiring me to go look up Iranian film.  Some of their films sound wonderful and I have added several to my wishlist. 
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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We need a system like that implemented for subtitles so that users can check one or many CoO for a given title.

I think that the easiest solution is just to add every country and be done with it.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Cass:

I'll thank the OP for his OP, but not for the comments he posted later on in which he stooped to personal attacks, and kulju as well. Not at you cass, but I am royally PO'd at the moment. Perhaps the OP is a citizen Ahmedinijad's Iran, which might explain his utter disdain for the free expression of opinions and the addressing of those ideas without making personal attacks. Kulju, I have no explanation for.

BTW for both FH and Kulu, your personal attacks have only weakened your argument in my view and strengthened mine.

Allow me to add this, there is no love lost between myself and the Islamic world, in this case as represented by Iran. I know that supposedly Islam is a peaceful religion and that the extremists are small percentage. So where are the demonstartions decrying the violence of the extremists, I saw Islamists dancing in the streets on 9/11 but I heard no outcry or condemnation of the actions. Why is this important to me? Becuaes it struck me a little to close to home, many of you know that i live in Washington DC area, on 9/11 my wife drove right under the airplane that crashed into the Pentagon, she knew it was way out of position but... Had she been 5 minutes later she would have been right alongside the Pentagon when it was was struck. So quite frankly, I don't give much for a culture of barbarian behavior, or for a culture that instead of life celebrates death, please forgive me for that bias.

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In Skip's defence he is actually not too bad when it comes to feature request: often times he will improve upon the initial suggestion.

However, I do understand the frustration many users feel when their ideas as shot down in the forum.

The problem I have is with people shooting down ideas just because they don't 'like' them. Many forum users NEVER seem to look at things from the perspective of the 'little man'. In effect they never think of how the minority would like things done.

Personally I'm with Skip at being PO'd at the moment. I have almost reached the point of stopping contributing, voting and visiting the forum. It's not worth the hassle and aggravation.
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Last time I checked skip, apart from a few glory-releases like Hero and House of Flying Daggers (both of which iirc you had a US release for), your collection is highly Hollywood-centric.  Why do you insist on continually harassing every suggestion that helps those who have collections outside of these bounds?

My USA titles, is less of 40% of my collection. And is not less, because I have many alternative, clasical and sundance titles. Hollywood modern titles are very few. More than 60% are not USA titles in my collection. And having many of the principal titles of clasical Hollywood, actually grow and groow no USA-s titles more than USA's titles, because the % of USA's title is going to litle.

Now, I have only 150 titles to added country, I would like have no titles without country.

And other country I need, Colombia.

Skipnet50, is a all world outside Hollywood, a very interenting world. Cinema outside Hollywood is very diferent, there are many diferents reallities. Outside cinema could show you other social realities, other cinema forms. Outside make our world more rich, and think, in the last times, outside make the way of Hollywood, who makes many remakes for people who no wach outside cinema and lost many interesting original works, like DarkWater, FunnyGames... Near cames innecesary remake of OldBoy (pray, pray...)...





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I think the easiest solution to CoO would be to make an open field, like Rating.

I am not progamer, and I can't say what is the easy or best solution, but some must do, there are many people that need and request solve country system.
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Kulju, I have no explanation for.

BTW for both FH and Kulu, your personal attacks have only weakened your argument in my view and strengthened mine.


I'm sorry if I offended you by calling your point of view very US (read Hollywood) centered, but that's the way I see it. Problem having a mature debate with you is that you never ansver ideas suggested to you, you always get side tracked. Could you please be so kind and reply to following questions.

1. Is there something wrong if we get a dropdown menu which includes all countries, but keeps most used (locally by user) at the top of the list for usability?
2. You keep talking about "major players", how do you define 'em?

As a side note, we don't even have Russia as a CoO.
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I think the easiest solution to CoO would be to make an open field, like Rating.

Do you mean Rating Details field? Rating is a closed dropdown menu. My knowledge about databases is limited, but I've lived under impression that everytime that there is an option to select between list and open field, list should be used. That way same data is written to database only once.
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This would allow any country to be included, as well as multiple CoOs.

I agree that we need more CoO fields and all countries. Open field may be the easiest way to do it, but in my opinion, not the best.
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I think that the easiest solution is just to add every country and be done with it.

I agree.
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Allow me to add this, there is no love lost between myself and the Islamic world, in this case as represented by Iran. I know that supposedly Islam is a peaceful religion and that the extremists are small percentage. So where are the demonstartions decrying the violence of the extremists, I saw Islamists dancing in the streets on 9/11 but I heard no outcry or condemnation of the actions. Why is this important to me? Becuaes it struck me a little to close to home, many of you know that i live in Washington DC area, on 9/11 my wife drove right under the airplane that crashed into the Pentagon, she knew it was way out of position but... Had she been 5 minutes later she would have been right alongside the Pentagon when it was was struck. So quite frankly, I don't give much for a culture of barbarian behavior, or for a culture that instead of life celebrates death, please forgive me for that bias.

Skip


Okay, please explain the connection between this valid Feature Request and 9/11... 

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Quoting synner_man:
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I think the easiest solution to CoO would be to make an open field, like Rating.  This would allow any country to be included, as well as multiple CoOs.


That's a wonderful idea.  It sounds like that would be just as easy, if not more so, as adding countries to the current dropdown field.  And we would still be able to sort & chart by them.

Quoting W0m6at:
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At the end of the day, don't we all want an accurate database?


Precisely.  I would like my database to be as accurate as humanly possible.  Skip, you have often commented that you are dedicated to making your database completely accurate.  So are many of the rest of us.  I know I want my database to be completely accurate to the last detail of data that I'm interested in.  And country of origin is one of those details.

Yes, I could keep track of the CoO for my foreign films via country using tags.  But then I couldn't have fun with charts, graphs and statistics for them.  They aren't included.  I also can't sort by tags. 

But as it stands I own a film from Afghanistan, have films from Yugoslavia, Chile, Argentina, Morocco, Iran, & Cuba on my wishlist, and there's no way to sort them or track them by CoO.  So, please don't tell me I don't need more countries or I should work around it by changing countries I'm not currently using to one I need.  I may need that country in the future as it is.  I enjoy - often a great deal - non-US film.

There seems to be a lot of agreement for the most part here.  The majority may not use it, but they seem to see the value of being able to correctly ID a film's country of origin (either by open field or by adding to the drop down).

Lastly, may I say thank you to the OP and later posters for inspiring me to go look up Iranian film.  Some of their films sound wonderful and I have added several to my wishlist. 


These posters represent my feelings on the topic. I know nothing about programing but, if it isn't too difficult, I would like to see this enacted.

I only wish the program could be all things for all people!
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I judghed your idea, I made no personal attack on YOU or Kulju and I will not be told by YOU, KULJU or anyone else that i am not allowed top express my opinions, this is not the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany.

You only can see only you like see. These is not personal attack, only I trying say to you, you are afronting these with bad actitud and without respect for the other people we made forum.

You are allowed to express your opinion how many you like... but these right finish when you star afecting to others rigths negative.

Rights are good thing, but have with them a responsability and obligations.

Please, think a little about you are doing.





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but not for the comments he posted later on in which he stooped to personal attacks

1.- They are not personal attacks.
2.- You start the attack, torpeding the request. Not star attack is you don't like a answer.





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BTW for both FH and Kulu, your personal attacks have only weakened your argument in my view and strengthened mine.

Weakened?

Can you see you are only are defending your posture and all others are talking to do something to improve dvdprofiler? Can you see you are more alone when you say stupids things?





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The problem I have is with people shooting down ideas just because they don't 'like' them. Many forum users NEVER seem to look at things from the perspective of the 'little man'. In effect they never think of how the minority would like things done.
And after they say "this is not the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany."

I see many sugestions I will not do, and I never go to say don't do these request becasuse I don't like them. Skipnet, every time I see you answers, every time you say to don't do the request and solve with tags all.





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Okay, please explain the connection between this valid Feature Request and 9/11... 

Finally, some people kill with her own soge.






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I only wish the program could be all things for all people!

That is the correct actitud. Learn about she.
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Four titles out of almost 400,000, wow.

Four for me, there are more tham four with not country allow in these 400,000.




Please, to know how many we need these request, answer to these poll: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=334766

I not know how put in these post, bacuase this I made apart.
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FH I suggest you re-read your posts, then  and deal with your personal attacks upon me. You want to discusss ideas fine, but YOU crossed the lline and until yopu face that I have no interest in your ideas.

Kulju:

I accept your apology. The issue for me , personally is all about time. the bigger the list the morte time invested to wade through it.  You may counter that it takes seconds, sceonds to me are critical, let's say it takes 5 extra seconds, that 35,000 seconds to my collection and to my time or nearly 600 HOURS just because of the addition of contries and/or languages which have a mere handful of users and films.  Time is money, and I already far too much of it invested, to take the abuse that I receive.

This is something that is never considerec when requests are made for features, there is never any consideration shown for other users or how it might impact them to process the request. This IS wexactly why I am very selective in what I make as a feature request.

Skip
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Skip you don't just understand this is not your feature request.
So you don't need this feature, fine. But there's at least one user who could use the CoO.

The 600 hours argument is useless, all you have to do is sort your profiles by CoO and check the empty lines. I suspect the majority of your profiles already have a CoO, so there would be no problem.
The same goes to new languages and subtitles - filter for 'other' and check.

And by the way, I think you are not the only active user in the US, at least not yet.

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FH I suggest you re-read your posts, then  and deal with your personal attacks upon me.

I re-read, and I can't find personal attacks. If I worng, please, tell me and I made a apologize.

I Only found many times saying to you, to change your badly actitud for one good and respect the others. The badly actituds are not good recived not only here, in all sites. That is not a attack, that is made for try to solve the problem you made participating in here.

If that you understand like a attacks, You have, only you, a very important problem.




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You want to discusss ideas fine, but YOU crossed the lline and until yopu face that I have no interest in your ideas.

You don't want discuss ideas. You only insist in not do the request, not try never in discuss how made the request implement with no problem for you. For every propositing, we only ear to you, NO! Not only in this post, in every request post you are alwais equal.

Many are boring of you constant negative.

If you don't like discuss, better go out. Others we like discuss to implement need request in the best form for everybody.

You crossed one, and one, and again, and again... in many times the line. Respect the others and theirs request, do positive contributions, not try torpeding every time some is request, because people is boring of you.

And don't do false acusations, is more badly.





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You may counter that it takes seconds, sceonds to me are critical, let's say it takes 5 extra seconds, that 35,000 seconds to my collection and to my time or nearly 600 HOURS just because of the addition of contries and/or languages which have a mere handful of users and films.  Time is money, and I already far too much of it invested, to take the abuse that I receive.

Did you think for win time, is more important inprove the program usuabilly tham limited the upgrades?

We are saying not only added more countries, added more countries with a good system to gestion the database.

You are losing time and money, making the wrong war.

The war is not versus people and the request, the good war is in making more usuable and more adaptable program.

Only you are the who made a war where is not.





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This is something that is never considerec when requests are made for features, there is never any consideration shown for other users or how it might impact them to process the request.

You like have easy and few options becasuse your collection is very specializated in a very little of cinema tipe, but not must be the others situation.

Always, when other made a request, your reaction is like we attack the easily of the program for you. And things not are like you think.

I say before and I say again, more country must be added, and will be improbed the usuabilly of program for no new functions made hardest program. Could be do with selecteable diferent windows, customice usual countries...

You NEVER considerec the others need, only YOU.






[b]And with that, the off-topic must be finished.

THAT MUST FINISH SKIP50. TALK ABOUT ONLY ABOUT REQUEST, AND TALK CONTRIBUYING, not try post put of saying to every proposition no or madeing corruption of the topic.[/b]
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