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Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | I think it is fine as it is now. But, what I would like is: If a DVD is letterboxed widescreen 1.78:1 (not anamorphic) the graphical picture should have black bars on all sides, not filled with blue as now.
btw. I agree with checkboxes for color format. | | | Last edited: by No-way |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Ken said check boxes for the color options is coming in the next update (soon). Which will get rid of Multiple as it won't be needed any longer. Will be able to show correctly. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | It seems to me the only thing that needs to be changed is how Full Frame defaults to 1:33.1 (etc.)... That this whole rework with removal of the Widescreen... Full Framed... Pan & Scan boxes is not necessary at all.
Why not leave it as is and just fix/remove the defaults? | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | IMHO Pan & Scan is incorrect anyway since we have no means to verify if the film has actually been Pan & Scanned or just cropped. As far as I know these are completely different processes. Some films just have been cropped so that every frame has been cropped from the same place (usually center). Pan & Scan on the otherhand is monitored process where cropping may varie during the cuts so the essential info can be seen in cropped image. Worst example of cropping without Pan & Scan was a very old Blue Velvet release which was full of talking noses.
Pan & Scan and Full Frame could just be converted to 1.33:1. I'm also against Widescreen because it doesn't tell you anything else than that the image is wider than 1.33:1. It's informational value without the actual Aspect Ratio is similar to adding credits:
Person #1 Person #2 Person #3 ...and so on. Only info we get out of this is that there are more than one character in the film. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Yet that tells me a LOT more then those profiles I have going completely blank. Taking away info I do find valuable. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: Yet that tells me a LOT more then those profiles I have going completely blank. Taking away info I do find valuable. If Ken should decide to remove the Full Screen checkbox he could automatically fill 1.33:1 where there is none, or fill 1.33:1 in the (new) secondary aspect ratio if the first is already set with something else | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Full Framed wouldn't be much of a problem... I know 1:33.1 when I see it.
But taking away widescreen where there is no aspect ratio is where the problem arises. It would be taking away good, correct information and leaving it blank. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 115 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: Calling 16:9 enhanced anamorphic is technically wrong. Anamorphic refers to a type of lens. Well, that ain't fully correct either. Anamorphic means only that something has reshaped from original. If you add "lens" then it is about camera lens technology. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 115 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting force: Quote: But, what I would like is: If a DVD is letterboxed widescreen 1.78:1 (not anamorphic) the graphical picture should have black bars on all sides, not filled with blue as now. No. In DVD graphical picture icon should be shape/size of 4:3 and black bars top/bottom. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 115 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: Full Framed wouldn't be much of a problem... I know 1:33.1 when I see it.
But taking away widescreen where there is no aspect ratio is where the problem arises. It would be taking away good, correct information and leaving it blank. If you know that 1.33:1 is full frame. Then you automatically know what widescreen is => it is everything else. What is the problem by adding aspect ratios to your profiles? Why do you want to keep them empty? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | 1. I refuse to put potentially bad info in.. and I have tried to learn aspect ratios... but I just don't get it. 2. I am... and always will be against any solution that will possibly remove any type of correct info. While it may not tell you as much as you would like.... it does tell us correct information. While I am for fixing the problem. I am personally against your particular solution. That is just the way it is. I will once again ask... Quote: It seems to me the only thing that needs to be changed is how Full Frame defaults to 1:33.1 (etc.)... That this whole rework with removal of the Widescreen... Full Framed... Pan & Scan boxes is not necessary at all.
Why not leave it as is and just fix/remove the defaults?
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Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting JaLe: Quote: Quoting force:
Quote: But, what I would like is: If a DVD is letterboxed widescreen 1.78:1 (not anamorphic) the graphical picture should have black bars on all sides, not filled with blue as now. No. In DVD graphical picture icon should be shape/size of 4:3 and black bars top/bottom. Yes, black bars on all sides, as I just said. Top,right,bottom and left. (4:3 has black bars on left and right, you know.) |
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Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | Btw. I think all DVD's have the aspect ratio of 4:3. just that some are anamorphic and sends a signal to stretch the image horizontally to fill a 16:9 frame. | | | Last edited: by No-way |
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Registered: June 7, 2012 | Posts: 13 |
| Posted: | | | | I have DVDs with more than one movie on them and more than one colour system. I want the multiple option to stay because it better explains what is on the disc. Also as far as I am concerned 1.78:1 is NOT full frame in any way shape or form. It is achieved by matting a 4x3 image and that isn't full frame. Just having the aspect ratio doesn't cut it because I want to know if a given movie is 1.33:1 Full Frame or 1.33:1 P&S. The shape of the TV monitor has no bearing on it. Who knows, in the future we could have screens that are 2.40:1. Some people seem very eager to remove features that they do not use but make no allowance that others do use them. Here's an idea, lets just add stuff and not take it away. | | | Last edited: by Billycan |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Once the check boxes come you will be able to check all the appropriate boxes. So multiple really won't be needed. | | | Pete |
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Registered: June 7, 2012 | Posts: 13 |
| Posted: | | | | It will be needed for discs with TWO (count them TWO) different films on them. Mixed indicates colour and monochrome in the same film. Multiple indicates colour and monochrome in seperate films like "The Mist" for instance or my copy of "The Thing". | | | Last edited: by Billycan |
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