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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
I really can't see the big difference between setting a local checkbox and changing one of the 3 genres locally to adult. You don't have to contribute this genre change and loosing one genre is not really a big loss. Yes it had a difference since the online colection showing use the database genre and not our personnal genre to filter if we decide to not show the adult title. Movie filter without "adult" movie showing on my collection (obviously all the XXX)Battle Royale Beyond Re-Animator Blade Runner Braindead Casino The Fly The Fly II From Dusk Till Dawn Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth Kalifornia The Living Dead at the Manchester Morgue Near Dark Pink Flamingos Police Federale, Los Angeles (To live and die in L.A) Reservoir Dogs (1997 DVD release, but not the 10 years SE  ) The Return of the Living Dead Return of the Living Dead Part II Salo, Or The 120 Days Of Sodom Le silence des agneaux (The Silence of the Lambs) Slap Shot 2: Breaking the Ice Species II Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation They Live (region 2, but not the region 1 ) Vixen Wonderland Like you could see this is very arbitrary. Many of those title have nothing to do on an adult block list |
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
3) ... and this is the point of this thread... "Show Online Tag": This has nothing to do with any of the above points.
If we can get such a tag, then it would be up to any one himself to set this tag. Some of us would hide their porn movies, some even their erotic collection, while some others would simply hide the animation movies of their 5 year old daughter. - This is totally individually and has nothing to do with ratings or genres in any way...
Not a bad idea  A "Don't Show" check box for profiles you don't want to show, whatever the reason. | | | | -- Enry |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
Yes it had a difference since the online colection showing use the database genre and not our personnal genre to filter if we decide to not show the adult title. This is not true. I just changed one of the genres for "The Princess Bride" (a PG rated movie) to Adult, uploaded the profile, and adjusted the Online Collection settings to hide Adult titles. Result: The profile is not shown in my Online Collection. Also note that for this to happen, you can put Adult in any of the 3 genre slots, it doesn't have to be the first one. And you also don't need to lock your genres, as your personal data will always be used regardless of locks. | | | | Matthias |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Matthias, I don't have any of my movie who have "adult" as genre in my database and the only one for who I use the "adult" rating are my XXX movies. If you check my previous post at 3:33, you'll see the list of movie not shown on my online list with the filter. How could you explain this if I don't use the rating & the genre adult? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
Matthias, I don't have any of my movie who have "adult" as genre in my database and the only one for who I use the "adult" rating are my XXX movies. If you check my previous post at 3:33, you'll see the list of movie not shown on my online list with the filter. How could you explain this if I don't use the rating & the genre adult? I cannot explain it at this time. Pick one of them, tell me UPC + locality, genre + rating (both as online and as it is in your collection), and I might be able to look into it later. Or someone else can explain it? My previously mentioned test with the "Princess Bride" (027616865731, USA) worked as I described it. Since this is mostly about hiding additional titles I started with a non-adult example (PG + no adult genre) and tried to hide it - which worked. | | | | Matthias | | | | Last edited: by goodguy |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
I cannot explain it at this time. Pick one of them, tell me UPC + locality, genre + rating (both as online and as it is in your collection), and I might be able to look into it later. Or someone else can explain it? Reservoir Dogs (1997 release) Region : Canada UPC : 012236044208 Rating : R Genre my database : Suspense/Thriller, Action Kalifornia Region : Canada UPC : 027616851550 Rating : R Genre my database : Suspense/Thriller The genre seems the same. I go to refresh and make a comparaison and the program tell me that he detect no difference. I can understand for some title I thing (NC-17, 18(UK), but the majority of them are rated R. And one of my XXX movie appear but it is Unrated in my collection and I have forget to give it the good rating. I've really no idea how the online database works. But it seems really weird to me how the title are flag as adult in the database if you decide to hide them. You will probably have some bizarre result too if you do the test. | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
I just changed one of the genres for "The Princess Bride" (a PG rated movie) to Adult, uploaded the profile, and adjusted the Online Collection settings to hide Adult titles. Result: The profile is not shown in my Online Collection.
Also note that for this to happen, you can put Adult in any of the 3 genre slots, it doesn't have to be the first one. And you also don't need to lock your genres, as your personal data will always be used regardless of locks. All the data is loaded up to the online database NOT just locked. (this is a change when v3 was introduced) And the definition of what you personally define as Adult is held in your copy of dvd profiler - open tools / options / parental control I have my copy set to Certificate None, Genre = Adult. This means that the sole factor which determines whether a file shows on my online database is the genre. Sounds like you are the same. | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Okay, found it.
In DVD Profiler, all per-locality ratings are mapped to an internal rating level (1 - 5). These are stored in the localities.dod, which occassionally gets updated when the Online Profile List (the one that lists all available profiles) gets updated.
For the display of your Online Collection, all profiles that either have an Adult genre or an internal rating level of 5 are considered "adult" titles, and are hidden if you choose that option.
For the US locality, the NC-17 rating is level 5, the R rating is level 4.
For the Canada locality, the R rating is level 5, and the 18 rating is level 4. There is no NC-17 rating defined. I don't know the real ratings in Canada, but I would guess it should be the other way around: R = level 4 and 18 = level 5.
If you add the US version of Reservoir Dogs (R-rated), it will show up in your collection, even if you hide "adult" titles.
Bottom line:
We don't need a "adult" checkbox, but we need the ratings for each locality to be mapped correctly. | | | | Matthias | | | | Last edited: by goodguy |
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | It seems to me that Parental Control by rating is not reliable if you own DVDs from different localities.
For instance, with Parental Control = MPAA RATING "Adult or NC-17,
and the "Hide adult title" check box ticked
a NC-17 US DVD will not be visible, but a VM-18 Italian DVD will be visible anyway.
Edit: Now I see Goodguys's post that might explain what's happening. Maybe some good remapping might help, but each country in the world has its own rating system...! | | | | -- Enry | | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
a NC-17 US DVD will not be visible, but a VM-18 Italian DVD will be visible anyway. That is because the Italian VM 18 is mapped to the internal level 3 and not to 5. Quoting pauls42: Quote:
And the definition of what you personally define as Adult is held in your copy of dvd profiler
- open tools / options / parental control That doesn't affect the Online Collection. I have mine set to ignore the Adult genre, but it hides the profile anyway if I change a genre to Adult - as I did with the PG-rated "Princess Bride". | | | | Matthias | | | | Last edited: by goodguy |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Edit : Matthias gave the answer to what I want to know | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
Okay, found it.
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Thanks for your answer and your research  Quote:
If you add the US version of Reservoir Dogs (R-rated), it will show up in your collection, even if you hide "adult" titles And that's explain why the 10 years special edition is not hide by the filter | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
3 or 4 are rated NC-17 and 6 are rated 18(UK), but the others are rated R or Unrated. Ehm... Didn't I just explain the rating mappings for different localities, especially Canada? | | | | Matthias |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
Quoting AESP_pres:
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3 or 4 are rated NC-17 and 6 are rated 18(UK), but the others are rated R or Unrated.
Ehm... Didn't I just explain the rating mappings for different localities, especially Canada? Yes, I know your post was not there yet while I was writting and I didn't have the time to edit this one. I'm not fast enough  |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
For the US locality, the NC-17 rating is level 5, the R rating is level 4.
For the Canada locality, the R rating is level 5, and the 18 rating is level 4. There is no NC-17 rating defined. I don't know the real ratings in Canada, but I would guess it should be the other way around: R = level 4 and 18 = level 5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_motion_picture_rating_system It's correct as is. The Candian R is roughly equal to a US NC-17 and is higher than an 18 rating, which is the same as R. |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | All supported formats have built in parental controls. The most elegant solution woudl be to use the same data as those. Anyone know of any software that will tell you how a given disc is coded? |
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