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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 1,982 |
| Posted: | | | | The fact that a dvd is official or not isn't an issue and have nothing to do with the original request. The only fact that count is that this country had produced a lot of film. Nothing said that an unofficial dvd can't be entered manually in our personal database and even if those profiles are non contribuable it's important to have the correct information for them too. |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 151 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote: The quantity of 4 came from a user who owns 4. That's not the number of supposed Iranian DVDs in circulation. Wrong. I say I have 4 Kiorastani irani's films, but I have another more. And two in wishlist. The problem incomparation, is "someone" put these for, edited in only one of countryes where dvdprofiler is use, versur all world contuibution profilers. If we think Kiorastani's films are edited in many countries, and there are not only Irani's directors and films edited, we are talking about many dvd-s. And I am sure in Iran and near countries, Iran's films are edited, and I am sure there are many users of that space of the world. Quote: Even if it were only 4, it is still a perfectly valid request that should be implemented. That's rigth. Quote: I didn't say that it was invalid. Hal. i was poking fun at the small amount of tit;les and users, obviously that is beyond your comprehension. You don't use that exactly word, but your actitud was very near. You only was argued about numbers to try avoid request. You never think will be good for someone without problems for others. Only if is good for many can be do? |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 151 |
| Posted: | | | | I see I need also Serbia and Montenegro, I fan of Emir Kusturika. |
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Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting FHarlock: Quote: I see I need also Serbia and Montenegro, They split up in 2006. | | | -- Enry | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
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Registered: October 31, 2007 | Posts: 19 |
| Posted: | | | | While on the subject of country inclusion. What about the films that are jointly produced by say the USA and Canada, UK and Germany etc While entering a profile earlier, I could only select one country of origin although two countries took part so I left it blank? | | | "The hell I will", John Wayne |
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Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,878 |
| Posted: | | | | Yeah, that's currently what the correct choice is. It is not, IMO, the best choice.
What we need as far as co-productions is one of the following:
- an option of "Multiple" in the drop-down menu. This would probably be the easiest to implement and would at least allow us to notate that a given film has multiple CoOs. The downside is that one would not have the ability to track the specific countries in this case.
- the ability to add more than one country, the way we can currently add more than one studio or genre. This might be the most difficult to implement and might be confusing. Using the film Paroxismus as example, we would get this: ---- Italy ---- Germany ---- United Kingdom
- the ability to add a custom entry to the field to notate more than one country. This might be easier to implement than the previous option, but might also be more confusing as it would be notating multiple pieces of information in a single field and might also make CoO impossible to sort or chart. Again, using Paroxismus as example, we would get: ---- Italy / Germany / United Kingdom
My personal vote would be for either the first or second option, because I see a number of potential difficulties with implementation of the third. But that's just my opinion. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -- Thorin Oakenshield | | | Last edited: by Danae Cassandra |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 151 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote: Quoting FHarlock:
Quote: I see I need also Serbia and Montenegro,
They split up in 2006. And how i would know the films before 2006 where was made? I must put Serbia or Montenegro? |
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Registered: March 17, 2007 | Posts: 853 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting steveuk: Quote: While on the subject of country inclusion. What about the films that are jointly produced by say the USA and Canada, UK and Germany etc While entering a profile earlier, I could only select one country of origin although two countries took part so I left it blank? Normally what I do for those is enter the country in the most prominent of the two movie companies resides. |
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Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Lord Of The Sith: Quote: Quoting steveuk:
Quote: While on the subject of country inclusion. What about the films that are jointly produced by say the USA and Canada, UK and Germany etc While entering a profile earlier, I could only select one country of origin although two countries took part so I left it blank?
Normally what I do for those is enter the country in the most prominent of the two movie companies resides. How do you know which company is the most prominent? I generally pick the CoO of the co-productions on a "first listed, first served" basis. | | | -- Enry |
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Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting FHarlock: Quote: Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote: Quoting FHarlock:
Quote: I see I need also Serbia and Montenegro,
They split up in 2006. And how i would know the films before 2006 where was made? I must put Serbia or Montenegro? Not an easy question! I would check the city where the production company is based. Most probably in Serbia, the bulk of former Serbia and Montenegro. | | | -- Enry |
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Registered: March 17, 2007 | Posts: 853 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote: Quoting Lord Of The Sith:
Quote: Quoting steveuk:
Quote: While on the subject of country inclusion. What about the films that are jointly produced by say the USA and Canada, UK and Germany etc While entering a profile earlier, I could only select one country of origin although two countries took part so I left it blank?
Normally what I do for those is enter the country in the most prominent of the two movie companies resides.
How do you know which company is the most prominent?
I generally pick the CoO of the co-productions on a "first listed, first served" basis. For instance if I had a movie that had MGM and the Forseth Group. I would list MGM first. When it becomes a little more complicated do a little research. Whichever one has made bigger movies. |
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Registered: December 7, 2008 | Posts: 9 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote: We need the ability to add all countries and the ability to list multiple countries.
As it stands now, we are unable to properly record co-productions, of which there are many. When we select one country for a multi-national production, we create incorrect data. eg. a French-Italian co-production is not a French film. It's a French-Italian film. When we record it as a France COO, that's an error.
If we leave the COO blank when we have a country that's not in the list, we have no way to know if the field is blank because we've determined it to be a non-listed country or if we haven't determined the proper COO at all!
As it stands now, by nature of the small number of countries available and the ability to only choose one, the COO is a collection of accurate, inaccurate, incomplete and unknown information...and therefore essentially useless in its current configuration. +1 |
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Registered: June 23, 2007 | Posts: 1 |
| Posted: | | | | Don't really NEED CoO - I usually delete it in my profiles anyway... Keep this up and you'll have an 'overbloated' databaase... On over 1300 DVDs - only 2 are not USA... I CERTAINLY don't need this!
Just MOHO | | | Quote:
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Many users encounter fields in DVDP they don't use - e.g. I don't care one bit about all this costume, make-up and visual effects crap that has recently been added to Crew Credits. But these are called personal preferences.
With a US-centric collection like yours, CoO will not be of much use. With a collection like mine, with over 35 CoO's, it's one of the fields I use most (in spite of its current limitations). | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 151 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote: On over 1300 DVDs - only 2 are not USA... I CERTAINLY don't need this! And how many of them are remakes of outside films you don't buy? You don't need, ok, but how about all other people? We must do PCNetGuydvdprofiler or dvdprofiler? | | | Last edited: by FHarlock |
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Registered: December 7, 2008 | Posts: 9 |
| Posted: | | | | FWIW, I went through the Countries Index in the IMDb and created a list of all countries IMDb is aware of: link. While I do no think that the mere number of releases a country has, should dictate whether it is included in the "Country of Origin" list, I included that number for each country, as well as the country's "status". I think we agree that a complete list should consist of all current and now-defunct countries, to allow users to select whatever is appropriate for the profiles they're contributing to. |
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