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I wonder why is it that everytime a positive PS3 (as a gaming console) thread is created the Wii or some negative statement has to be brought up?  Look at the threads here.  It's an interesting trend.

It's not only this, if a positive Wii or XBox comment is posted it's exactly the same.
Maybe it's because of the messianism of the hardcore Wii-, XBox360- and PS3-users, who obviously don't like to hear that not everything of their idol is the only true thing and that other consoles may have advantages as well.
The rest of the world just stares and wonders.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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But, if you enjoy the Wii, you enjoy the Wii.  Just don't try to force/convince others to enjoy it or to hate the PS3.  I don't think that's a difficult request for reasonable people.  What do you think?


Depends, can you abide by that same request?  Can you stop trying to force/convince others to hate the Wii, and the 360, and believe that the PS3 is the second coming? 
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But, if you enjoy the Wii, you enjoy the Wii.  Just don't try to force/convince others to enjoy it or to hate the PS3.  I don't think that's a difficult request for reasonable people.  What do you think?


Depends, can you abide by that same request?  Can you stop trying to force/convince others to hate the Wii, and the 360, and believe that the PS3 is the second coming? 


Damn I was going to say the same thing!!!  I find it hypocritical of A_S to ask this of Specter when that has been Ascended's Modus Operandi since arriving upon these once peaceful forums!!!
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I wonder why is it that everytime a positive PS3 (as a gaming console) thread is created the Wii or some negative statement has to be brought up?  Look at the threads here.  It's an interesting trend.

It's not only this, if a positive Wii or XBox comment is posted it's exactly the same.
Maybe it's because of the messianism of the hardcore Wii-, XBox360- and PS3-users, who obviously don't like to hear that not everything of their idol is the only true thing and that other consoles may have advantages as well.
The rest of the world just stares and wonders.

I don't remember seeing any Wii or X360 threads here.  Could you list one or two?  I have seen Wii and X360 threads on other website, though.  The Wii threads on other websites usually are just about the Wii (no stabs at other consoles).  I can't remember seeing any good news type X360 threads on other websites that doesn't make jabs at the PS3 or create/repeat negative PS3 news as good X360 news (instead of something specific for the X360).
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But, if you enjoy the Wii, you enjoy the Wii.  Just don't try to force/convince others to enjoy it or to hate the PS3.  I don't think that's a difficult request for reasonable people.  What do you think?


Depends, can you abide by that same request?  Can you stop trying to force/convince others to hate the Wii, and the 360, and believe that the PS3 is the second coming? 

I do, but I will challenge inaccurate information (among other things).  I also tend to deal with OT stuff when threads are dealing with PS3 specific info and in come the Wii or X360 stuff when it's not irelevant in the 1st place (like the other recent PS3 thread).

I can't recall going into a X360 specific titled thread here (if any exist) and spew OT PS3 and Wii crap.  I can't recall going into a Wii specific titled thread here (if any exist) and spew OT PS3, X360, and/or other OT crap.  HOWEVER, I have VERY ecent example of this from the usual suspects (you know who you are) doing that very SAME thing.  Interesting.  Interesting indeed. 
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I wonder why is it that everytime a positive PS3 (as a gaming console) thread is created the Wii or some negative statement has to be brought up?  Look at the threads here.  It's an interesting trend.

It's not only this, if a positive Wii or XBox comment is posted it's exactly the same.
Maybe it's because of the messianism of the hardcore Wii-, XBox360- and PS3-users, who obviously don't like to hear that not everything of their idol is the only true thing and that other consoles may have advantages as well.
The rest of the world just stares and wonders.

I don't remember seeing any Wii or X360 threads here.  Could you list one or two?  I have seen Wii and X360 threads on other website, though.  The Wii threads on other websites usually are just about the Wii (no stabs at other consoles).  I can't remember seeing any good news type X360 threads on other websites that doesn't make jabs at the PS3 or create/repeat negative PS3 news as good X360 news (instead of something specific for the X360).


Proven to have been correct       

Seriously A_S, where did I talk of threads in this forum? I wrote about postings in favour of one of the existing console systems, which, as you just confirmed, is taken by the fanboys / -girls of the other systems as a direct attack against their personal honour.
No matter which console you support, this goes for all the fanboys / -girls.

I would say, you all should leave your conversion attempts to the PR-departments of Sony, Nintendo and M$. At least they get payed for it.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Proven to have been correct       

  What is this suppose to be?  I know it's not from anything I typed on this page.  I'm just curious about the significance of that.

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Seriously A_S, where did I talk of threads in this forum? I wrote about postings in favour of one of the existing console systems, which, as you just confirmed, is taken by the fanboys / -girls of the other systems as a direct attack against their personal honour.
No matter which console you support, this goes for all the fanboys / -girls.

I would say, you all should leave your conversion attempts to the PR-departments of Sony, Nintendo and M$. At least they get payed for it.

I apologize for the reference to this site.  Since you quoted my entire post, I assumed you were responding to it as a whole.  I agree with you, but I think there is no end to this.  Once this was set in motion via MS/MS fanboy (ie. statements like...you're just buying into the Cell hype, X360 is more powerful than the PS3, X360 drive read speed is greater than the PS3, etc) type statements, you have a choice as a bystander.  You can let the injustice continue or help fight those injustices.  "Evil persists, when good men do nothing."  Make no mistake, to try to mislead people is evil.  In most situations, I'm not the passive observer type.  It rarely yields desired results.  But, I look forward to the day when the 1st and 2nd blows are never thrown.
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Once this was set in motion via MS/MS fanboy (ie. statements like...you're just buying into the Cell hype, X360 is more powerful than the PS3, X360 drive read speed is greater than the PS3, etc) type statements, you have a choice as a bystander.  You can let the injustice continue or help fight those injustices.  "Evil persists, when good men do nothing."  Make no mistake, to try to mislead people is evil.  In most situations, I'm not the passive observer type.  It rarely yields desired results.  But, I look forward to the day when the 1st and 2nd blows are never thrown.


You actually have a third choice.  You can grow up, realize these are just fancy toys and move on to more important things in life.  I don't think one pre-teen arguing with another about which toy is the best quite qualifies as "evil persisting".  And your status as a "good man" is still in question.  Most here would say you're the evil that persists by butting into conversations where you're not wanted and annoying people until they simply walk away.

Adults present the facts and let other adults make their own decisions.

Now, let me have my obligatory red arrow and let's move on.
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Proven to have been correct       

  What is this suppose to be?  I know it's not from anything I typed on this page.  I'm just curious about the significance of that.

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Seriously A_S, where did I talk of threads in this forum? I wrote about postings in favour of one of the existing console systems, which, as you just confirmed, is taken by the fanboys / -girls of the other systems as a direct attack against their personal honour.
No matter which console you support, this goes for all the fanboys / -girls.

I would say, you all should leave your conversion attempts to the PR-departments of Sony, Nintendo and M$. At least they get payed for it.

I apologize for the reference to this site.  Since you quoted my entire post, I assumed you were responding to it as a whole.  I agree with you, but I think there is no end to this.  Once this was set in motion via MS/MS fanboy (ie. statements like...you're just buying into the Cell hype, X360 is more powerful than the PS3, X360 drive read speed is greater than the PS3, etc) type statements, you have a choice as a bystander.  You can let the injustice continue or help fight those injustices.  "Evil persists, when good men do nothing."  Make no mistake, to try to mislead people is evil.  In most situations, I'm not the passive observer type.  It rarely yields desired results.  But, I look forward to the day when the 1st and 2nd blows are never thrown.


Seriously, look at your choice of words..."bystander"..."injustice"..."evil persists, when good men do nothing"???

This type of rhetoric is usually found in arguments about politics or religion, yet here you are preaching about fanboyism and the "almight PS3"9as you see it)?!?  WTF???   

Fanaticism...look it up, seek help immediately!!!
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hmmmm...   
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forgive my multiple posts, but everytime I edit it reposts again...weird!!!
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Once this was set in motion via MS/MS fanboy (ie. statements like...you're just buying into the Cell hype, X360 is more powerful than the PS3, X360 drive read speed is greater than the PS3, etc) type statements, you have a choice as a bystander.  You can let the injustice continue or help fight those injustices.  "Evil persists, when good men do nothing."  Make no mistake, to try to mislead people is evil.  In most situations, I'm not the passive observer type.  It rarely yields desired results.  But, I look forward to the day when the 1st and 2nd blows are never thrown.


You actually have a third choice.  You can grow up, realize these are just fancy toys and move on to more important things in life.  I don't think one pre-teen arguing with another about which toy is the best quite qualifies as "evil persisting".  And your status as a "good man" is still in question.  Most here would say you're the evil that persists by butting into conversations where you're not wanted and annoying people until they simply walk away.

Adults present the facts and let other adults make their own decisions.

Now, let me have my obligatory red arrow and let's move on.

If you believe it's only pre-teens arguing, you are severely misinformed.  Remember, the average gamer age is 30.  It's really not much different from the HD Format War.  How many pre-teens were arguing about that one?  I remember these SAME people (you were one of them) being a part of that "arguing" session as well.  I thought you were going to be one of the good people and leave the emotions associated with that time behind you.  I guess I might be wrong about that one.  I guess these particular people don't learn from those types of experiences.  The difference would be that the average age was probably 40 instead of 30.  So, yes, "evil persisting" actually qualifies.

Actually, the butting into conversations where you're not wanted belongs to the people that jump into "Ultimate Proof Sony is winning" type threads to talk about me and not about the thread topic!  I've been a member DVDProfiler in all it's incarnations longer than most of the people being vocal about me AND NOT THE THREAD TOPIC (which is not about group hugs with all the consoles or anything like that).

I realize that some of the people here just respond as a knee jerk reaction to me and not to the topic.  This is most do to the fact that I tried my best to help people not waste money on HD DVD, but get over it.  Another thing about being a "good man" is that some people can't open their eyes long enough to see that (much like the panicked swimmer doesn't recognize that the lifeguard grabbing him/her is trying to help and relaxing is a good way not try to drown them both).  I've said what I'm going to say about this off topic stuff.

Adults DO present the facts and allow others to make up their minds.  However, when more BS is made up, that person has to present MORE facts.  And, the cycle continues.  Adults realize that.

Now, if anyone wants to talk about the actual topic of the thread (like rational people), I'll probably respond.  Maybe asking these particular people to be logical/rational about these things is too much to ask.
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This thread is not about the PS3 in general, it is about an article stating that the PS3 is winning the so-called console war!!!  This thread was not created to talk about or discuss the great benefits of the PS3, it was created to showcase a fluff piece article about the current state of the console war!!!  If you honestly can't see that this article practically solicits response from those who support the XBOX 360 or the Wii, than you are truly more naive than I thought!!!

The reason why people attack you is because you attack others and then try to justify it by claiming to be some great SONY messiah here to save all us ignorant buffoons...here is the proof...

A_S quote:
"I realize that some of the people here just respond as a knee jerk reaction to me and not to the topic.  This is most do to the fact that I tried my best to help people not waste money on HD DVD, but get over it.  Another thing about being a "good man" is that some people can't open their eyes long enough to see that (much like the panicked swimmer doesn't recognize that the lifeguard grabbing him/her is trying to help and relaxing is a good way not try to drown them both).  I've said what I'm going to say about this off topic stuff."
End quote!!!

So using your analogy, everyone here who owns and enjoys their XBOX 360s or their Wiis is drowning and you are the lifeguard here to save them by showing them the virtues of your golden god SONY!!!

You are a pompous delusional fool, I honestly feel sorry for you!!!  Again you should seek professional help!!!
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If you believe it's only pre-teens arguing, you are severely misinformed.  Remember, the average gamer age is 30.


The whole "mine is better than yours" game is juvenile regardless of how many years the participants have been on this planet.

I'm a proud owner of a Wii, an HD DVD player and a PS3.  They all have their strengths and weaknesses and I wouldn't get rid of any of them.
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"Evil persists, when good men do nothing."

I think that if he hadn't been burnt after death, Ghandi would revolve in his grave for seeing his bonmot in this context.
Do I get something wrong or are we talking about commercial entertainment products here?
What exactly is evil about Nintendo or M$ and what makes Sony sacrosanct?

There are for sure several things in the merchandising strategies of all three that could be considered as "evil", but hey, it's all just about money and it's still the customer that decides which product he buys. And be assured the average customer knows better than to inform himself in the fanbases of commercial products.
The way I see it the three consoles all have there pros and cons, depending on what you want to do with them and depending on your personal financial capabilities, even a combination can make sense.

Wii: Lousy graphics (standard of the late 90's), but great if you want to play with your friends.
XBox: Great graphics, great games, but nevertheless nothing else but a standardized low budget PC. Not to forget that the HD-Media support is not integrated, which makes it unsuitable as an entertainment center.
PS3:Great graphics, great games, HD-Media support, but horribly expensive for a console and the sound quality isn't fitting the video quality, which I wouldn't expect of a high priced product.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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