Quoting rdodolak:

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Quoting GreyHulk:

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People are still submitting new Disc IDs under Windows 10 with no tool to correct it. Sigh.

If you have AnyDVD and have it enabled you'll get the correct Disc ID.

I'm aware of that (I have Windows 10 and AnyDVD myself) but I've asked three people in the last few weeks who were submitting 'new' Disc IDs under Windows 10 and they had no idea that they were 'fictional' Disc IDs. Too many people now have a 'faulty' Windows 10 and are not aware that this is an issue.

Submitting new "faulty" Disc ID's inside the profile is annoying but not that big issue.

Bigger issue is that folks are submitting boxset child profiles (without own UPC) with these "faulty" Disc ID's.

My suggestion would be that we should change the Alternate Version rule a bit.
And start using alternate UPC from boxset parent profile for child profiles, because UPC is what it is, it's printed on cover.

Boxset example:
Awesome Movie Trilogy (UPC: 123456789)
  - Awesome Movie (UPC: 123456789 #1)
  - Awesome Movie 2 (UPC: 123456789 #2)
  - Awesome Movie 3 (UPC: 123456789 #3)

I thing that this would tackle the issue that database is full of profiles created with "faulty" Disc ID.
One issue is how to remove and clean up database from those bad profiles.

What do you folks think about this?

Quoting JaLe:

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Submitting new "faulty" Disc ID's inside the profile is annoying but not that big issue.

Bigger issue is that folks are submitting boxset child profiles (without own UPC) with these "faulty" Disc ID's.

My suggestion would be that we should change the Alternate Version rule a bit.
And start using alternate UPC from boxset parent profile for child profiles, because UPC is what it is, it's printed on cover.

Boxset example:
Awesome Movie Trilogy (UPC: 123456789)
  - Awesome Movie (UPC: 123456789 #1)
  - Awesome Movie 2 (UPC: 123456789 #2)
  - Awesome Movie 3 (UPC: 123456789 #3)

I thing that this would tackle the issue that database is full of profiles created with "faulty" Disc ID.
One issue is how to remove and clean up database from those bad profiles.

What do you folks think about this?

It's not a bad idea but it would have to factor in all the child profiles already in the system. And there might be the odd set that while legal does not have a UPC for whatever reason, so the Windows 10 issue would still apply there. And there are cases where two or more 50 movie sets use the same UPC but sub out some of the movies. You'd quickly get some really large numbers for each variant set that could get confusing. Probably the biggest issue is the people who can make these kinds of decisions haven't been heard from in a while. Don't get me wrong, I like that it gets away from the disc ID aspect but we'd need to get the decision makers' okay and work out how to minimize the extra work to make the switch.

Someone with programming skills ought to be able to create a free utility that reads the disc ids the old way, for those who don't own AnyDVD.

Also, these phantom Disc IDs seem to be generated rather randomly. Currently under Windows 10, If you use one utility to read a DVD, it gives you a Disc ID. Use another utility, it gives you ANOTHER Disc ID. One of my friends got 3 different Disc IDs just from one disc.

Quoting AiAustria:

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The problem is, you can't enter the Disc ID manually into DVD Profiler...

That was not the intention. Apparently, AnyDVD is able to "hijack" the Windows system call seamlessly, which another utility should also be able to do.

I believe the correct description is AnyDVD acts like a rootkit, it inserts its own driver that sits between the operating system layer and the hardware layer.

Hm somehow I only have this issues with DVDs - BDs and UHD are working fine!

I'm using the latest Win 10 x64 1909 + Asus BW-16D1HT (UHD friendly with 3.10 MK firmware). I tried a few older and newer BDs and a UHD, the Disc ID matches.

The only strange thing I found is, that on some discs DVDP recognizes the ID and jumps right to the profile, on others I doesn't find it and doesn't do anything (there is no Popup with disc not found). When trying to create a new profile of those existing ones teste discs are not found either. But when I go to the profile in my collection the disc IDs a are 100 % identical. Even when I try to assing it to the side b field it says that they are already assigned to side A.

With DVDs I always get the popup disc not found and I get different IDs (tried several DVDs, most of them 10-15 years old)

Then I installed DVDfab Passkey Lite (+Trial) to see if it makes a difference, but it doesn't, acts the same. I don't have AnyDVD.