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Own a DVD twice? Not with DVD Profiler you don't. |
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Registered: May 30, 2007 | Posts: 15 |
| Posted: | | | | No idea if this has been mentioned before, the forum is VERY big. At least I couldn't find anything using the "Search Forum" engine.
Just now I had that problem again: I bought a boxset of films that contains several films and a film I already own as a single disc (but has the same Disc ID). Now I'd like to download children profiles to the boxset parent profile but can't add all filmes since one of them is "Already part of your Owned Collection". Of course i COULD add that single disc to the boxset but what good is that? It doesn't match my actual owned collection and just makes things complicated when doing inventory.
So how about an "ADD ANYWAY" option? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,380 |
| Posted: | | | | If the DVD's inside the boxset dont have a UPC, add them by disc ID. |
| Registered: May 30, 2007 | Posts: 15 |
| Posted: | | | | As I said, I added the discs using the DISC ID, but if you ALREADY OWN that DVD e.g. you own the SAME Disc with the SAME Disc ID more than once, for example as a single disc or as part of a different boxset, then it doesn't work. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,380 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gumbi88: Quote: As I said, I added the discs using the DISC ID, but if you ALREADY OWN that DVD e.g. you own the SAME Disc with the SAME Disc ID more than once, for example as a single disc or as part of a different boxset, then it doesn't work. I wasnt sure what you ment, as usually when i have 2 DVD's that although have the exact same disc ID, the other one is usually added by UPC, and as the other one doesnt have a UPC i can add it by Disc ID. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,279 |
| Posted: | | | | Not an ideal solution, but the only one currently available. You can add them as manual title, it does mean you have to copy the data across manually, which is much less painful since the copy cast/crew function was built.
For what it's worth the long disc id has lessened the issue, but not eliminated it. Allowing some other identifier to be included such as disc id plus release date (even if the latter is hidden from public view) would reduce this further, although I'm sure it wouldn't eliminate it entirely. I'm thinking of those German horror releases that have no UPC and multiple covers by Simple Movies. | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Perhaps there's another less-than-ideal solution. I assume you're talking about a German release. If you can establish this same release is being sold in either Austria or Switzerland (check out some Austrian/Swiss webshops), you might change the Locality to either Austria or Switzerland, and then you should be able to have it in your collection twice. Again, not ideal, but it could be a workaround.
BTW: if you want to search the Forums, you will get better results to enter the search terms in Google followed by site:invelos.com than by using the Forums' native Search function. | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
| Registered: May 30, 2007 | Posts: 15 |
| Posted: | | | | Actually I'm talking about british releases. Right now i'm trying to get as many Hitchcock and James Stewart films as possible and as cheap as possible. So now I have a Boxset of Hitchcock Movies including Rear Window which features James Stewart, the same movie (and apparently identical disc) is also included in one James Stewart Box Set. Both don't have a UPC. I guess the whole thing would be so much easier if the boxset feature was improved. So far I have to add all boxset contens manually from existing profiles and that's where the error occurs and the software blocks me adding the same disc twice, although in different boxsets. If a boxset could contain individual profiles of the Discs, no matter if profiles for that disc already exist, and the boxset parent and children profiles were downloaded once i added the boxset, the whole problem shouldn't exist. I hope you get what I mean.
Thanks anyway for your suggestions. I guess we'll have to wait for a software update. There hasn't been one in quite a while so I hope the next one will bring MASSIVE improvements :-). |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,279 |
| Posted: | | | | I think we're using manual as two different things.
You can add as many manual dvds as you want without the software stopping you, even if they are the same title. What you can't do is upload these to the database so they don't benefit from updates by others, as they don't use the disc id or ean.
Go to add DVD > add by title > un tick download from IVS.
As I say you have to copy the data across manually, but at least your collection is closer to what you actually have.
I guess you've missed the beta announcement, I've not really played with it but I'm fairly certain the current beta release does not alter the boxset functionality in this way. | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
| Registered: May 30, 2007 | Posts: 15 |
| Posted: | | | | I know i can basically do whatever i want in the software, but the important thing for me is to have the online collection match my actual collection, including coverscans. Manual profiles are even uploaded to the online collections, but the coverscans are still missing. I even know why it's not possible to upload non-approved coverscans, i already discussed that problem back when DVD profiler was still from invervocative ;-). Yes the stuff everyone mentioned gets me close to my actual collection, at least on my computer, but not online. And that's what this request is actually all about. I guess. We can all agree: There IS room for improvement. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I have an easier answer for your duplicate problem, we all sometimes will wind up with TWO of a given release, I simply give duplicates away as Birthday/Christmas presents. There is always room for improvement BUT I don't think we will ever get to the point your are talking about for the Online. Ken might surprise me, but i don't see that as viable with500,000+ users the possibility of allowing users the Cover option you want could be nightmarish on the server side in terms of storage, were it me I would not allow that option for the Online to much expense for storage, too many possibilities for potential abuse. There is also the question of legality, I suspect, some users like to create custom covers sites which deal with this have been shut down in the past by Hollywood, if users were able to use the Online to display whatever cover they wish, this could then conceivably become a problem for Invelos, make no mistake Hollywood is aware of Profiler. Is it worth potential loss of the software in some sort of legal fight with Hollywood, just so users can displayly whatever cover they wish online....NO it's not.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: I have an easier answer for your duplicate problem, we all sometimes will wind up with TWO of a given release, I simply give duplicates away as Birthday/Christmas presents.
Skip @ Skip. He has two different box sets, an Alfred Hitchcock Collection and a Jimmy Stewart Collection, each containing the same film, "Rear Window" with identical Disc IDs. He can't add the Disc in the second box set because the Disc ID is already assigned to the other box set. I don't think he's going to break up a box set by gifting the duplicate discs to relatives . @ Gumbi88 I feel your pain but right now the only solution is to add this disc manually and, yes, your online collection will unfortunately have no images. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gumbi88: Quote: I know i can basically do whatever i want in the software, but the important thing for me is to have the online collection match my actual collection, including coverscans. Manual profiles are even uploaded to the online collections, but the coverscans are still missing. I even know why it's not possible to upload non-approved coverscans, i already discussed that problem back when DVD profiler was still from invervocative ;-). Yes the stuff everyone mentioned gets me close to my actual collection, at least on my computer, but not online. And that's what this request is actually all about. I guess. We can all agree: There IS room for improvement. If what you want is to have something online then have a look at phpDvProfiler (see my sig). This would allow you to have custom images so you could have a manual profile for the 2nd copy (and see the covers for it). | | | Paul | | | Last edited: by pauls42 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | If you really really want to add that title,, do as DJ suggests.. Change the 'locality' of one of the titles.., Doesn't have to be anything drastic, maybe a neighboring county. It wont change anything at all, EXCEPT the ability to add that UPC or that Disc ID.. try it.. You'll be glad you did.. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote: If you really really want to add that title,, do as DJ suggests.. Change the 'locality' of one of the titles.., Doesn't have to be anything drastic, maybe a neighboring county. It wont change anything at all, EXCEPT the ability to add that UPC or that Disc ID.. try it.. You'll be glad you did.. Changing the locality of an existing profile means that you could submit it incorrectly for another locality. So make sure that you don't submit it. | | | Paul |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gumbi88: Quote: No idea if this has been mentioned before, the forum is VERY big. At least I couldn't find anything using the "Search Forum" engine.
Just now I had that problem again: I bought a boxset of films that contains several films and a film I already own as a single disc (but has the same Disc ID). Now I'd like to download children profiles to the boxset parent profile but can't add all filmes since one of them is "Already part of your Owned Collection". Of course i COULD add that single disc to the boxset but what good is that? It doesn't match my actual owned collection and just makes things complicated when doing inventory.
So how about an "ADD ANYWAY" option? Gumbi: I know it is frustrating, we all buy dupes from tinme to time and then yell out ourselves when we realize. BUT, as for the idea of entering duplicate copies, that would take the program to a different place with different capabilities and higher cost. What limit would you put on the number of copies 2, 3, 50...no we have moved into the realm of running a retail store which is an entirely different set of capabilities than Profiler has. Some are similar to current capabilities but much more detailed and robust and hence more money. Could ken produce a store level version of profiler...sure, but just as Profiler is the best program out there for its purposeses, there are already several very fine retail store programs...but they don't cost $30 either. So, while I understand the issue and it has been talked about numerous times, there IS a reason for everything and you have to balance one against the other. I don't want dupes of one version of a title, so the problem doesn't faze me at all, if I don't return/exchange the dupes I put them aside to gift to family and friends. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote: Quoting widescreenforever:
Quote: If you really really want to add that title,, do as DJ suggests.. Change the 'locality' of one of the titles.., Doesn't have to be anything drastic, maybe a neighboring county. It wont change anything at all, EXCEPT the ability to add that UPC or that Disc ID.. try it.. You'll be glad you did..
Changing the locality of an existing profile means that you could submit it incorrectly for another locality. So make sure that you don't submit it. Yes I forgot to make that note,, Thanks Paul. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
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