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Ability to override online image |
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Registered: May 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,033 |
| Posted: | | | | There is often a request/inquiry as to why the online listings image doesn't match that in the desktop image. (I know this is because online only uses the image in the database). The ability to display an alternate image would be a nice feature, even if this was just something made available in the highly anticipated update to the online list.
My thoughts on how this would work is that there would be two new fields, online front cover image location and online back cover image location. Users could then fill this in with a url to an image and when you upload your collection, if this field has a value it uses that value as the source of the image shown instead of the online databases image.
This would eliminate Invelos having to host all the images as people would be responsible for hosting their own alternate image but allow manual profiles, or rerelease images to be displayed in peoples collection
-Agrare |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I would love to see this. I have several re-releases as well as some home made discs I would like the cover to show for. | | | Pete |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | The problem would be that the images would be shown in the context of the Invelos website. Since Invelos can't control neither content nor size* of the image, it could get them into trouble.
Otherwise Invelos would need to put a disclaimer in front of the collection just like they do when you vote on a cover scan.
*Even if they use the HTML attributes height and width for a picture the image is still there in it's full size and quality. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Agrare: Quote: There is often a request/inquiry as to why the online listings image doesn't match that in the desktop image. (I know this is because online only uses the image in the database). The ability to display an alternate image would be a nice feature, even if this was just something made available in the highly anticipated update to the online list.
My thoughts on how this would work is that there would be two new fields, online front cover image location and online back cover image location. Users could then fill this in with a url to an image and when you upload your collection, if this field has a value it uses that value as the source of the image shown instead of the online databases image.
This would eliminate Invelos having to host all the images as people would be responsible for hosting their own alternate image but allow manual profiles, or rerelease images to be displayed in peoples collection
-Agrare Agrare: While I understand and appreciate the idea. I would not hold my breath. This would mushroom the amount of hard disk space and the costs to Invelos. This might be something that Ken has planned for Profiler Plu, but I rather doubt it. It simply, while doable, doesn't seem feasible given the cost structure that Ken uses. For example, let me override the Online images with my own...that's 12 GB for ONE user and will probably 13GB by Year's End and 15 next year. If Ken were to do thsi Profiler would have to cost substantially more for the base program or more than I think is the planned cost for Profiler Plus. Essentially what you are asking for two things, a complete Online Backup, PLUS the Online display of that backup. Now most of the backups that are available for off-site backup run $50 per year now add the display "costs", probably another $10. $6.00 per month/$60.00 per year, yes I can do math, before somebody decides to get cutesy, while that isn't terribly expensive, it is moer than I think the target is. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: May 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,033 |
| Posted: | | | | Skip,
all the user would provide is a url for where the image is, so in your case it would be up to you to store your 12 GB of images somewhere on the web. Then you would provide a link to the location which would replace the location currently used in the image tag. No increase in storage requirements for Invelos.
I do see DJ Doena's concern but how is that any different than now. We have a disclaimer when going to vote on images but there is no disclaimer when going to view those same images through someones collection.
-Agrare |
| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Exactly. The original post quite clearly stated the alternate images would be hosted elsewhere by users themselves. The only extra "burden" on the Invelos servers would be to host their URL's. So +1 from me! |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | So you want, essentially to make phpProfiler native? That and more are already possible through phpProfiler. I don't see this as viable, because while it might be good for small collections, larger collections become cost prohibitive to take advantage of this, and there are many who have even larger than me, my friend Srtehims makes me look like a piker. Use phpProfiler, I think is the best answer. Putting a feature into the Program that is only of benefit to some, without incurring major extra costs by others, to me, doesn't seem like a good answer.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| Registered: May 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,033 |
| Posted: | | | | no, i want to be able to display my re-release artwork in my collection without having to 1) acquire a web server 2) get php installed on the web server 3) setup php profiler 4) do all the steps required to update my changes to php profiler
how is a 3rd party online database that incurs extra cost and work to everyone better than a simple field that would allow a big improvement that is frequently asked for (if only indirectly). Telling customers to go elsewhere for enhanced features is not a good business model. Yes, I'd like more improvements to the online (ability to search, better handling of box sets, etc) but this is a simple addition that could be made that would address one of the bigger and more frequently asked for shortcomings
plus, it doesn't have to incur any major costs to you. you can a) make smaller versions of your images for online b) only put up images that differ from the ones in Invelos online (can be paired with a) c) keep yours the way it is and you'd not get any additional costs and the online would work as it does now for you.
-Agrare |
| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this with the upcoming subscription service.
Of course that is ONLY my guess as Ken hasn't released many details at this time. | | | Last edited: by Ardos |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Agrare: Quote: no, i want to be able to display my re-release artwork in my collection without having to 1) acquire a web server 2) get php installed on the web server 3) setup php profiler 4) do all the steps required to update my changes to php profiler
how is a 3rd party online database that incurs extra cost and work to everyone better than a simple field that would allow a big improvement that is frequently asked for (if only indirectly). Telling customers to go elsewhere for enhanced features is not a good business model. Yes, I'd like more improvements to the online (ability to search, better handling of box sets, etc) but this is a simple addition that could be made that would address one of the bigger and more frequently asked for shortcomings
plus, it doesn't have to incur any major costs to you. you can a) make smaller versions of your images for online b) only put up images that differ from the ones in Invelos online (can be paired with a) c) keep yours the way it is and you'd not get any additional costs and the online would work as it does now for you.
-Agrare Sounds klike PHP (or a close cousin) to me, Agrare. With PHP you have to a site, with yiour idea you have to have site of some form, you can't simply deal from your computer. Oh, well Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Jubal: Quote: Sounds klike PHP (or a close cousin) to me, Agrare. With PHP you have to a site, with yiour idea you have to have site of some form, you can't simply deal from your computer. Oh, well
Skip With PHP, you have to pay for a server that can deal with the PHP format. With Agrare's idea, all you need is an image hosting site. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: With PHP, you have to pay for a server that can deal with the PHP format. With Agrare's idea, all you need is an image hosting site. Don't know about your side of the pond but on this side for the money you pay to get a reasonable amount of webspace (I have 400 megs of images) you get PHP and MySQL without extra charge. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 820 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: Don't know about your side of the pond but on this side for the money you pay to get a reasonable amount of webspace (I have 400 megs of images) you get PHP and MySQL without extra charge. Yea, but you still have to pay. You can get image hosting, at quite a few sites, for free. In addition, most ISPs provide free webspace. You don't get PHP or MySQL, but it is free and you can host quite a few images. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting DJ Doena:
Quote: Don't know about your side of the pond but on this side for the money you pay to get a reasonable amount of webspace (I have 400 megs of images) you get PHP and MySQL without extra charge. Yea, but you still have to pay. You can get image hosting, at quite a few sites, for free. In addition, most ISPs provide free webspace. You don't get PHP or MySQL, but it is free and you can host quite a few images. Very true... I have plenty of space on Comcast.net but they do not have neither PHP or MySQL. Not to mention some of us are just not comfortable enough with coding to do something like myphpdvdprofiler. So something like what the OP requested would be perfect for someone like me. | | | Pete |
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