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Proposal: Change to change BY to complete birth date |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | As we are adding more and more cast/crew it's coming to light that a few of them share the same Birth Year.
2 Ian Roberts were born in 1965.
An actress that was born in 1940. But I can't add the BY for both of them.
Julie Payne (1940) 9/11 NYPD Blue American Wedding Lois & Clark Spy Hard The Brady Bunch Movie Full House Perfect Strangers Misery Who’s the Boss Murphy Brown Rain Man Jumpin’ Jack Flash Fraternity Vacation ER Family Ties Laverne & Shirley Taxi THX-1138 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0668372/
Julie Payne (1940) (7/10) The Wild Wild West The Manchurian Candidate Alfred Hitchcock Presents http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1447580/
Of course this would only work when the complete birth dates was known, otherwise if only the BY was known for one of them. Then that would be entered for that one and the other would get the complete birth date filled in.
This way, for the rare times when they share the same BY, they both could be entered. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | While I understand what you are saying... I personally would rather us do something completely new instead of birthyears. What I believe needs to be done is changed to some system where we don't need to actually research to try to find info that we just may not be able to find. While I understand Ken not wanting to go with the IMDB's roman numerals...I think we need something different but similar to that to make distinctions. | | | Pete |
| Registered: April 14, 2007 | Posts: 415 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: While I understand what you are saying... I personally would rather us do something completely new instead of birthyears. What I believe needs to be done is changed to some system where we don't need to actually research to try to find info that we just may not be able to find. While I understand Ken not wanting to go with the IMDB's roman numerals...I think we need something different but similar to that to make distinctions. +1 |
| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Got to agree with Addicted on this one. BY are all well and good for the "big" name people, but are next to impossible for the lesser known actors/crew. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | Just trying to work within the current system.
If Ken does away with the BY's totally, then they proposal is moot.
Personally when I can't find a BY for two+ actors that share the same name I use a system based loosely on the romon numerals.
So let's say I find two actors and IMDB lists them as IV and VI. I enter them locally as 1004 and 1006. The last two digits equals the roman numeral system.
For example there is a Bill Thompson who did voices for Disney films and was born in 1913. But there is another Bill Thompson who acted in Full Metal Jacket and Magnum PI. IMDB lists him as IV. So locally I enter him as 1004. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Cubby this was suggested as an alternative if and when such BYs were found. It was also suggested that when BYs were not able to found, also a frequent issue, that we might use the Year of earliest recorded "appearance" in a film, but this too could be fraught with problems.<shrugs> Ken chose not to implement it, and in retrospect, I have to agree with Pete, that we need some form of a new system. I am not sure what form to use, but I'll leave that to Ken. I would guess an arabic numbering system would probably be the best, with the numbering system managed at Invelos end. We can only wait and see what develops. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 1,536 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote: Personally when I can't find a BY for two+ actors that share the same name I use a system based loosely on the romon numerals.
So let's say I find two actors and IMDB lists them as IV and VI. I enter them locally as 1004 and 1006. The last two digits equals the roman numeral system.
For example there is a Bill Thompson who did voices for Disney films and was born in 1913. But there is another Bill Thompson who acted in Full Metal Jacket and Magnum PI. IMDB lists him as IV. So locally I enter him as 1004. I use this system too, except that I make it 9904 and 9906 (in your examples above). However, the idea to use birth date rather than birth year does not solve the problem always. I stumbled upon two instances of Robert M. Young, both born on November 22, 1924, one in New Yoirk, and one in Edinburgh. So back to the drawing board? | | | Hans |
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