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"For branching titles, or those with multiple versions (e.g. Theatrical and Director's Cut) on the same disc or in cases where different editions are included in a multi-disc set, use the longest running time."

IMO too long and confusing.
How about:

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For branching titles, or those with multiple versions (e.g. Theatrical and Director's Cut) use the longest running time.

Quoting Kulju:

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Why not create box set and separate profiles for each disc?

Because a Box Set has to include more than one film.

Quoting bbbbb:

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Quoting Kulju:

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Why not create box set and separate profiles for each disc?

Because a Box Set has to include more than one film.

Bonus feature film does not, as with the BD/DVD combos.  And I agree, I cannot find it in the rules that says it must be 2 or more different titles just 2 films.

Maybe what needs to be defined is Film.  Does it have to be a completely different title, Same title but different video and audio, different running times, different cut.

If a set comes out for

Superman 2 that contains the theatrical version and the Richard Donner cut, is that enough of a difference?

Payback as opposed to Payback (Straight up:The Directors Cut)

Lord of the rings Fellowship of the Ring.  Extended release is 30 minutes longer.  Is that enough of a difference.

These are valid differences and valid questions.  What should be the trigger?

Charlie

Quoting KinoNiki:

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It's still only different cuts of the same film so none of the above makes it a box set.

Based on??

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I would profile the longest cut, whichever that is, since this seems to be the intent of the rules.

There aren't any intent in rules at the moment. They are only made because it's technically impossible to make two different profiles with same locality and discID, so we are forces to have some rules for these occasions. If the films are on separated discs, there are no technical restrictions, so why not make two different profiles so we can enter the data correctly??

For example Trilogy of Dead Boxset [6416548352312]. It contains films:
Night of the Living Dead
Day of the Dead
Dawn of the Dead: European Cut
Dawn of the Dead

each on it's own disc. Should I delete Dawn of the Dead: European Cut child profile because it's just a different cut or should I delete Dawn of the Dead child profile? It doesn't make any sence. Both discs contain different Features.

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Quoting CharlieM:

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What should be the trigger?

If the films are on different discs, plain and simple. Why should we make things more complicate? If we someday get rid of technical restrictions then no triggers at all, 2 films = 2 different profiles.

I agree, different discs, different profiles.  Should have been that way all along.

I gave the Superman Example, because they have 2 different Directors (and basically 2 different stories as is Paycheck), The Lord of the rings because of the Time Difference.

Charlie

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Quoting Kulju:

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For example Trilogy of Dead Boxset [6416548352312]. It contains films:
Night of the Living Dead
Day of the Dead
Dawn of the Dead: European Cut
Dawn of the Dead

each on it's own disc. Should I delete Dawn of the Dead: European Cut child profile because it's just a different cut or should I delete Dawn of the Dead child profile? It doesn't make any sence. Both discs contain different Features.

In this case we have an actual box set with different films, not just different cuts of the same film, which by our rules makes it a box set.

To enter only one film as a box set would require a rule change.

I personally wouldn't see it as a rule change, as much as a clarification.


But what would not require a rule clarification...Bonus Feature Film...

We are already profiling different versions of the same film (BD/DVD).  So this should be OK without problems.

Profile Marketed disc (Or what is designated as disk 1) as the primary profile, then each additional as a "Bonus Feature Film".


Charlie

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Quoting KinoNiki:

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In this case we have an actual box set with different films, not just different cuts of the same film, which by our rules makes it a box set.

Rules doesn't say that for boxset you must have more than one different films. With you logic if I give you three 1EUR coins you have total 1EUR because all the coins are same   

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To enter only one film as a box set would require a rule change.

I'll try one again. There are more than one film.

I guess it doesn't take much to confuse you.

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Quoting CharlieM:

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But what would not require a rule clarification...Bonus Feature Film...

We are already profiling different versions of the same film (BD/DVD).  So this should be OK without problems.

Yes we do this with HD/SD combos. But nowhere does it say that we can do the same when the media type is identical.

As much as it would be desirable, I don't see how it can be done at this time without further clarification. Also with bonus feature films, you would still have to choose which version to profile in the main (parent) profile so the problem pretty much remains.

Quoting the Rules

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The term "Bonus Feature Film" is used to define any feature film that is included as part of the bonus material for a single release.

emphasis by me

I do not see the restriction.  This is the same rule that allows BD/DVD combinations (although listed in boxset, but not entered as a boxset). 

As far as which one is profiled as the main, In most cases either one of 2 things are present;

1. Marketed as a particular release, with the added other release
2. Disc order present on the case (profile disc 1)

If these do not work, then it is first in.  I do not see the difficulty in that at all.

Charlie